From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, suhailsingh247@gmail.com, 73046@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73046: 29.4; Emacs 100% CPU usage for several seconds when opening dired buffer over TRAMP
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:50:14 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <868qvypfyh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plpb6luu.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Suhail Singh on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 21:05:29 -0400)
> From: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, suhailsingh247@gmail.com,
> 73046@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 21:05:29 -0400
>
> Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
>
> > Tramp used a non-zero timeout in the past. This was removed some years
> > ago, I don't remember the reason.
>
> The timeout in tramp-accept-process-output was disabled in commit
> 54ef338ba3670415cf47fabc33a92d4904707c7e . The commit mentions
> bug#61350 , however, it's not clear (based on briefly skimming the
> discussion there) that this change was ever necessary. If not, should
> the timeout be reintroduced?
I think Michael just did (see below).
> IIUC, we're still actively waiting for the output from the remote host,
> but simple not _exclusively_ doing so thanks to the `sit-for'. Is my
> understanding correct?
When we call sit-for, we yield the CPU for whatever other jobs are
waiting, so we don't hog the processor.
> If so, isn't there some mechanism to specify a
> continuation that's run once the TRAMP process produces output? Such a
> mechanism shouldn't require a `sit-for' to yield control.
How would that help? Tramp must still wait for the response to
proceed with what it does.
> In other words, isn't it possible to do both font-locking and getting
> the response over ssh concurrently (of the main thread, as well wrt each
> other)?
Every Lisp program runs in a single thread, so how can that be done in
parallel?
> If not, are there technical challenges in doing so, or simply that
> it's not been implemented (and thus, possibly, we may not know what
> the challenges are)?
Emacs doesn't support parallel processing, because introducing this
into the original single-threaded design is very hard at best, due to
a huge global state. We have Lisp threads, but only one thread can
run at any given time.
> > Pushed to master
>
> Thank you. I can test this (applied onto 29.4) later in the week along
> with the `dired-font-lock-keywords' patch and report back.
Thanks.
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2024-09-05 14:24 bug#73046: 29.4; Emacs 100% CPU usage for several seconds when opening dired buffer over TRAMP Suhail Singh
2024-09-05 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 21:04 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06 5:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-09-06 17:47 ` Suhail Singh
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2024-09-07 0:19 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-07 1:39 ` Suhail Singh
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