From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:35:03 +0300 Message-ID: <868qvm78jc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87frpvk8l9.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86ikur8vku.fsf@gnu.org> <878qvnk3j4.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86ed5f8ugc.fsf@gnu.org> <875xqrk20g.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86a5g38qkk.fsf@gnu.org> <87bk0jbh6t.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <867cb698ec.fsf@gnu.org> <8734lubs3z.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86frpu7gmf.fsf@gnu.org> <87setua4ya.fsf@thanosapollo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28998"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thanos Apollo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 15:35:53 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srdnc-0007Nz-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:35:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srdmu-0006Ng-PL; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srdms-0006NG-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srdms-0007PH-B8; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:35:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=BoXA4ZYVumWSQvkThU1uNwzNbH7Obz5MZZ6G9CaR/pE=; b=emf21MGl61A3AoIVTHWY gZshf8IhFjhfdCmpBHNOeeuT4kAIaBOkWQEcAn5Mua/UtjpcZgD8Ir2L+kqLjWBIGqCBtM6GqsUhp 1kb1yVEJhnXfFlv8X3ttW+zNYU4nCdAYfBt5ANUFr78I5PrVgXrUtpdQZduaZuhIAyR63L05xshA9 mpryFBZW0a133se/WiMvEcqjJ2FsRBX/aVw4YghOj51uo9RMh/SdiOTZweBL+XuNUSwQ9RTIpexmV z7nGP72MCNpACc3We8WEMsYT/8g7inz0/EI6pGBhEK2jrh8DjxkAONwSQg28eSu/FEZAeSjRLNbEI EccjaFbTBo+Bag==; In-Reply-To: <87setua4ya.fsf@thanosapollo.org> (message from Thanos Apollo on Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:24:13 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323838 Archived-At: > From: Thanos Apollo > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:24:13 +0300 > > I think there is also a misunderstanding here about how we input > accents. First we define the accent e.g "´" and then we add the vowel > "α" -> "ά". We do not add a vowel and then "throw" accents at it, thus > it's not possible to add multiple tonos etc. What happens if you type several accents and only after that the vowel? Also, there could be a "postfix" input method, where you type the base character first and the accents after that. In any case, I have nothing against an input method disallowing sequences with multiple accents. My point was that users can easily work around that, and Emacs should not prevent such workarounds. > Combinations of accents have specific keybindings, usually using > modifier keys (Meta, Control). Do you have any examples of quail or any > other input method that uses modifier keys? Only with Shift, AFAIK. But I don't consider myself a Quail expert.