From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#73812: 30.0.91; ERC 5.6.0.30.1: Customizing erc-modules loads ERC when starting Emacs Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:48:21 +0200 Message-ID: <868qtjguhm.fsf__14518.0271867261$1731764963$gmane$org@gnu.org> References: <87o73mgjk3.fsf@neverwas.me> <865xptsh6f.fsf@gnu.org> <87h69ddz5l.fsf@neverwas.me> <86bjzhopaz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttd947pg.fsf@neverwas.me> <87ed3z1tut.fsf@neverwas.me> <87cyjepihk.fsf@neverwas.me> <86ttcqyucg.fsf@gnu.org> <8734k9fxtl.fsf@neverwas.me> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5028"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 73812@debbugs.gnu.org, acorallo@gnu.org, emacs-erc@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: "J.P." 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As such, I would very > >> much appreciate a final verdict on this matter. > > > > I'd prefer to wait a little longer for any fallout of reverting this > > on master. IME, two weeks is not long enough, as many people take > > several weeks to update their builds. Emacs 30 is not going to be > > released tomorrow, so we still have time. > > > > Let's talk about this in two more weeks, ok? > > Sounds good. Thanks. If no issues were reported on master due to this change, feel free to backport to the emacs-30 branch. Thanks.