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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: eller.helmut@gmail.com, pipcet@protonmail.com, spd@toadstyle.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 10:34:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868qrrf04z.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2jzbb0zxv.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Sat, 04 Jan 2025 09:02:20 +0100)

> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>,
>   spd@toadstyle.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 09:02:20 +0100
> 
> Another thought that crossed my mind. Not that I have an idea
> how to use that, but maybe someone else has?
> 
> With the existing arrangement, a count in the profiler log means time.
> It's count * sampling-interval since SIGPROFs arrive in fixed
> intervals, ignoring details.
> 
> With the new arrangement, the intervals between samples are generally
> not fixed length. Sampling is done when we get to it. Of course when
> we get to it often enough, we are approximating fixed intervals, but
> in general a count doesn't necessarily measure time, or only to a
> degree.
> 
> Can we use that somehow?

Why does time matter?  A profile shows the percentage of the samples
that we found ourselves in every function.  Time is never of any
importance, AFAIU.  That's why the frequency of SIGPROF does not
matter very much, except for very low percent values.  IOW, the
frequency of SIGPROF can explain why we miss some functions, but
that's all.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-04  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:13       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:23         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  7:39         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  7:51           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  8:02             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  8:47               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  9:29                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30  9:47                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:54                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:05                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:27                     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:53                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 15:05                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:32                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 14:59                         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:24                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:25                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:34                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:02                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 20:03                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:30                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 16:57                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:41                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:33                                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:37                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 19:55                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  7:34                                       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31  9:19                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 10:00                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:49                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31  9:51                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:15                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:05                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:14                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:20                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:12                                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:31                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:37                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:39                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 10:09                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 13:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:29                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:08                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-03 18:37                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-03 19:55                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-03 20:28                                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-04  7:01                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04  8:02                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04  8:34                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2025-01-04  9:02                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04  9:59                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 10:22                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 13:59                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-04 14:15                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 14:17                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 14:55                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-04 15:06                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 16:02                                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-04 17:13                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:14                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:19                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:31                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:40                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 14:55                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:13                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:16                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02  8:37                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02  9:05                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:00                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 12:34                                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-02 13:08                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:56                                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:42                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:40                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:53                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:02                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:32                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:52                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:18                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:23                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 11:11             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:13               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:53           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 10:46         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:00           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:07           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 15:12 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 17:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 18:40     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:20           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 20:54               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  5:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 19:15         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 19:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 16:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29  2:21   ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-29 12:22     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 15:01       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-29 19:44         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30  6:16           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 12:51             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:09               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:28                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:24         ` Sean Devlin
2024-12-30  6:17           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30  5:23       ` Sean Devlin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-28  6:40 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 12:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-28 12:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 13:50     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-29  8:02       ` Helmut Eller

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