From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs for everything? Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:03:15 +0100 Message-ID: <867jo9nfsc.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: <87pt2ej98v.fsf@node1.ddorf.de> <87zn1g2t5j.fld@barrow.com> <876540gxzw.fld@barrow.com> <86brdqp4au.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> <87mzx8bao8.fsf@lizard.king> <86hdnef42h.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> <87mzx6q8ud.fsf@lizard.king> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101460327 29561 80.91.229.6 (26 Nov 2004 09:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 26 10:12:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CXc93-0003r2-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:12:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CXcII-0000Yf-1o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:21:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CXcHg-0000XP-UE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CXcHd-0000Wp-Gg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:20:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CXcHd-0000Wg-5z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:20:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CXc8A-000668-KG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CXc89-0005L7-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:11:05 +0100 Original-Received: from ketchup.de.uu.net ([139.4.38.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:11:05 +0100 Original-Received: from kai by ketchup.de.uu.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:11:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ketchup.de.uu.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PtfS3yi1isH1mDYrLSrT3liorOA= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22341 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22341 Maciek Pasternacki writes: > On Setting Orange, The Aftermath 38, 3170 YOLD, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > >>> Also, I don't like screen(1) eating my C-a which I use frequently to >>> jump to beginning of line in shell. After thinking about other >>> binding to use, I realised that I use virtually every binding (since >>> I learned Emacs I use the same bindings in shell). >> >> I use ` for screen, `` inserts a single ` character. Works quite well. > > ...except when you try to paste a shell script from > editor/browser/whatever. Before I had ScreenTerm and could safely > disable hotkey I also used backtick but strange things happening when > pasting textwere annoying. Yeah. A friend uses C-o, perhaps that's better. In a shell, you don't use C-o that often, and for the few times, C-o o is good enough, I think. >> I started a screen daemon and changed my WM config so that all xterms >> attach to the same daemon. This means that the list of shell sessions >> and the number of xterms I've got are decoupled. Very useful. I can >> just create an xterm on demand to look at a shell session, then close >> the xterm and the shell is still there. > > I prefer to run few screen sessions and have terminal windows > independent of each other. Of course I can run the same session in > two windows but I like to have my net-related windows (irssi, ekg2, > SSH sessions, gnus-agent-batch) in one screen and `development' shells > (ones I temporarily use when programming) in second one, not > interfering with each other. If I used single screen for everything > there'd be too much screen windows for me -- usually I use about 5 > screen windows per session; more than 8-9 shells in one screen is just > confusing for me. What's missing for screen is the equivalent of C-x b or iswitchb. Kai