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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:37:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <867ibcekf3.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87od4sti4g.fsf@jurta.org

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:27:47 +0300 Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote: 

JL> Thanks, I see now why it is necessary to skip these ranges.
[patch to ucs-insert that includes read-char-by-name omitted]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:44:51 -0700 "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

>> > DA> This thread got off the ground because some thought 
>> > DA> that using an input method could be too heavy for
>> > DA> inputting Unicode chars. OK, keep looking for a better
>> > DA> (non "input method") input method, if you must. But 
>> > DA> please stay away from key chords and existing key bindings.
>> > 
>> > I don't understand why we don't just provide an interactive 
>> > function and let the users pick the keybinding they like.
>> > IMHO this is completely useless for many users (considering
>> > input methods exist for particular languages and we've talked
>> > about stacking multiple input methods), and essential for much
>> > fewer people (who need to enter arbitrary Unicode characters
>> > by number).
>> 
>> Seems like a good suggestion to me if combined with Juri's
>> latest suggestion.

DA> +1

I tried Juri's patch.  It works fine, but on my system it was pretty
slow (and I have a decent, fast workstation).  It took 3-5 seconds to
display the list without byte-compiling the code (which I generally do
when testing to be sure functions are not too slow).  I worry that on a
slow machine hitting TAB to see the completions will be painful.

Can completions be cascaded somehow?  The first tier would show all the
common first words, e.g. ... AEGEAN APL GREEK ... and then selecting
something from the first tier would cascade down to the second tier.
This might actually be a sensible suggestion for any completion list
with more than 100 or so members, and the tier separation can be done
with the word syntax of the current mode.

Anyhow, besides the speed issue, Juri's patch works fine for me and I
can now insert ANKHs and GERMAN PENNY SYMBOLs anywhere I like :)

Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 17:41 describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-16  2:29   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17  0:35     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-17  1:26       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17 14:09         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-17 23:40         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-18  0:10           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  0:47             ` inputting characters by hexadigit Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:54               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-18  1:01               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  4:48               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 12:39                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 16:17                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 17:33                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 18:08                       ` James Cloos
2008-07-18 18:59                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 21:29                           ` James Cloos
2008-07-19  0:30                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:35                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:59                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 23:17                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 23:29                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-29 16:07                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 18:00                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-19  5:49                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-19  0:13                     ` Miles Bader
2008-07-19  0:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  0:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 20:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:07                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  9:01                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 11:04                               ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 11:11                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:20                                   ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 14:24                                     ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:33                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 14:37                                         ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 19:25                               ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 19:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 20:23                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:38                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:49                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 22:03                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 23:37                                         ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-22  1:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:36                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 20:43                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:50                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:12                                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 21:03                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-21 21:24                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22  4:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 21:06                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22  4:04                                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 21:11                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 23:43                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22  4:06                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 16:54                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 17:04                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:16                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22  0:51                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22  7:56                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22  8:33                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 10:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 12:26                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22 12:33                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 12:35                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 16:16                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-22 16:54                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22 20:38                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-22 22:55                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:08                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  2:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:28                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  1:02                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-23  2:32                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  3:38                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  3:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  4:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 19:19                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:26                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  9:03                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 10:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 14:27                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:58                                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 14:06                             ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 13:01                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 13:05                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 13:44                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 14:27                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 19:24                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 22:32                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24  2:05                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 15:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 17:51                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 19:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 20:51                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30 15:29                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-31 19:20                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18  0:38           ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:58             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 13:33               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18 13:53                 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-18 14:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-18 15:22                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-19  0:45                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 16:35                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-21 16:35                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 16:58                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:47                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:31                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 22:52                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 13:29                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:39                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 15:27                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:34                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-25  0:41                                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-25  2:24                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-19  0:35                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  1:11                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20  0:29                     ` inputting characters by hexadigit Juri Linkov
2008-07-20  1:23                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20 20:27                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:37                           ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-07-23 19:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:19                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24  2:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 13:20                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:40                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 14:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 15:25                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 16:06                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 17:00                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 18:15                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 18:37                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-28 13:56                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 20:12                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 20:27                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 20:37                                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:30                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:59                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 14:00                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:35                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 23:00                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24  2:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25  0:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 13:24                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-19  0:35               ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Juri Linkov

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