From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Eder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:25:39 +0200 Organization: Arcor Message-ID: <867ib4copo.fsf@eder.homelinux.net> References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <880cfe65-c525-46f7-a2e7-f76aa1168015@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217390252 9227 80.91.229.10 (30 Jul 2008 03:57:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:57:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 30 06:26:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KO3GE-00072H-PW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:26:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35688 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KO2lQ-0007UV-0y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:54:12 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uxcfBB7js6KGHN1bKtaVA/tLtYk= Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jul 2008 00:27:01 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80c674cd.newsspool2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=JMb; 5[SRadN^B]`=U:WelBA9EHlD; 3YcB4Fo<]lROoRA4nDHegD_]REOZgU; C[CkDC; ^UCH76[QmKVnT0M3JU2MK8CI__9Ef9QN Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160691 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:51:13 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56047 Archived-At: Hi Xah, >>>>> "Xah" == Xah writes: Xah> I don't see my suggestion for emacs to adapt the “Alt+‹key›” notation Xah> should be classified as a “feature”. Between Feature and Bug, i'd say Xah> it's a bug, if forced. Xah> Remember, in my article Xah> “Emacs's M-‹key› Notation vs Alt+‹key› Notation” Xah> http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_meta_key.html Xah> The main reasons i gave are: Xah> • Universally understood Xah> • Identical To Key's Label Xah> • Meta is Alt in practice Xah> • Keyboards don't have Meta key today But this just plain wrong! My Alt key does *not* generate Meta but Alt (what a surprise) and I have a different key that generates Meta. Meta is not Alt, not even in practice. 'Andreas -- ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam.