From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lawrence Bottorff Subject: org-check.org confusion Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:06:19 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e66d961d89304d860c1d6 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPHF-0003mb-79 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:06:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPHA-00088m-Kb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:06:25 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:40222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPHA-00088g-Ef for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:06:20 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id um15so1640328pbc.14 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:06:19 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --bcaec52e66d961d89304d860c1d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got the org-check.org in my Emacs buffer. I do C-u C-c * . I watch Messages throw this: Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73) Re-applying formulas to 73 lines...done Re-applying formulas...done [2 times] Auto-saving... But there is no advertised re-write with "results" placed into the results column. I then look in the directory where org-check.org is -- and I see a .#org-check.org -> lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.11138:1363708367 I'm guessing org-check.org tried to email me "results?" The org-check.orgfile has no email in-buffer property I can find. Please advise. LB --bcaec52e66d961d89304d860c1d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the org-check.org in my Emacs bu= ffer. I do C-u C-c * . I watch Messages throw this:

Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73)
Re-applying formu= las to 73 lines...done
Re-applying formulas...done [2 times]
Auto-saving...

But there is no advertised re-write with "resu= lts" placed into the results column. I then look in the directory wher= e org-check.org is -- and I see a

.#org-check.org -&= gt; lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.11138:1363708367

I'm guessing org-check.org tried= to email me "results?" The org-= check.org file has no email in-buffer property I can find. Please advis= e.

LB
--bcaec52e66d961d89304d860c1d6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Loyall, David" Subject: Re: org-check.org confusion Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:18:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_FCEE4469EE8B234199968ECA9B0661E208CD34E8STNEEX10MB02sto_" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPTM-0000Vh-Lo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:19:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPTI-0003Ld-Vo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:18:56 -0400 Received: from mx01.ne.gov ([164.119.247.101]:57918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPTI-0003LW-ND for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:18:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lawrence Bottorff , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --_000_FCEE4469EE8B234199968ECA9B0661E208CD34E8STNEEX10MB02sto_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI, I don't think that email is involved here. I think that [lawrence]@[lawrence-ThinkPad-T61].[11138]:[1363708367] ...is: [username]@[hostname].[pid or port]:[unix timestamp] 1363708367 =3D Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:52:47 GMT Dear orgmode users: what does that represent? Is it a socket? A named pip= e? Just curious, thanks, --Dave From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org [mailto:ema= cs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Lawren= ce Bottorff Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 15:06 PM To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: [O] org-check.org confusion I got the org-check.org in my Emacs buffer. I do C-u = C-c * . I watch Messages throw this: Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73) Re-applying formulas to 73 lines...done Re-applying formulas...done [2 times] Auto-saving... But there is no advertised re-write with "results" placed into the results = column. I then look in the directory where org-check.org is -- and I see a .#org-check.org -> lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.111= 38:1363708367 I'm guessing org-check.org tried to email me "results= ?" The org-check.org file has no email in-buffer prop= erty I can find. Please advise. LB --_000_FCEE4469EE8B234199968ECA9B0661E208CD34E8STNEEX10MB02sto_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI, I don’t think = that email is involved here.

 <= /p>

I think that [lawrence]@[= lawrence-ThinkPad-T61].[11138]:[1363708367]

 <= /p>

...is: [username]@[hostna= me].[pid or port]:[unix timestamp]

 <= /p>

1363708367 =3D Tue, 19 Ma= r 2013 15:52:47 GMT

 <= /p>

Dear orgmode users: what = does that represent?  Is it a socket?  A named pipe?

 <= /p>

Just curious, thanks,

 <= /p>

--Dave<= /p>

 <= /p>

From: emacs-or= gmode-bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org [mailto:emacs-orgmode= -bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Bottorff
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 15:06 PM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [O] org-check.org confusion

 

I got the org-check= .org in my Emacs buffer. I do C-u C-c * . I watch Messages throw this:<= o:p>

 

Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73)<= /o:p>

Re-applying formulas to 73 lines...done

Re-applying formulas...done [2 times]

Auto-saving...

 

But there is no advertised re-write with "resul= ts" placed into the results column. I then look in the directory where org-check.org is -- and I see a

 

 

I'm guessing org-ch= eck.org tried to email me "results?" The org-check.org file has no email in-buf= fer property I can find. Please advise.

 

LB

--_000_FCEE4469EE8B234199968ECA9B0661E208CD34E8STNEEX10MB02sto_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Schmidt Subject: Re: org-check.org confusion Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:32:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <871ub9olre@ch.ristopher.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPgD-0006Ng-CI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:32:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPg7-0000Hg-OS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:32:13 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:34545 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPg7-0000HY-Gg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:32:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (David Loyall's message of "Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:18:38 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org "Loyall, David" writes: > Dear orgmode users: what does that represent? (info "(emacs)Interlocking") Christopher From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lawrence Bottorff Subject: Re: org-check.org confusion Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <871ub9olre@ch.ristopher.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2eda7b25984004d861409a Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40819) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPpV-0002Cl-32 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:41:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPpT-0003Iy-CH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:41:49 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]:55181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPpT-0003Ir-5j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:41:47 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id uo15so1637606pbc.5 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:41:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871ub9olre@ch.ristopher.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --047d7b2eda7b25984004d861409a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Any details about how this is involved with this issue? I have an # org-check.org# in this directory too. Being totally a beginner with elisp hacking, I don't know how to trace out this behavior. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Christopher Schmidt < christopher@ch.ristopher.com> wrote: > "Loyall, David" writes: > > Dear orgmode users: what does that represent? > > (info "(emacs)Interlocking") > > Christopher > > --047d7b2eda7b25984004d861409a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any details about how this is involved with this issue? I have an #org-check.org# in this directory too. Being = totally a beginner with elisp hacking, I don't know how to trace out th= is behavior.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Christopher= Schmidt <christopher@ch.ristopher.com> wrote:
"Loyall, David" <david.loyall@nebraska.gov> writes:
> Dear orgmode users: what does that represent?

=A0 =A0 (info "(emacs)Interlocking")

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Christopher


--047d7b2eda7b25984004d861409a-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Loyall, David" Subject: Re: org-check.org confusion Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:15:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <871ub9olre@ch.ristopher.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULha4-0004dI-QB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:15:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULha0-0006nv-FP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:15:28 -0400 Received: from mx01.ne.gov ([164.119.247.101]:34768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULha0-0006n2-Bc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:15:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Lawrence Bottorff , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Well, to access the documentation about this: M-: (info "(emacs)Interlocking") ...This tells us that the file you saw in the directory is a lock. The solution is to remove the lock, then try again. But how do I, also an Emacs newbie, know that? Well, lock files aren't pec= uliar to Emacs. Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#Loc= k_files :) How do you remove the lock? Well, first close all your Emacs buffers (on a= ny machine, anywhere) that are pointed at the org-check.org file. Then see= if the lock file is still there. If it's there, and you're not editing th= e file in an Emacs buffer, than the lock is stale. Manually delete it. (A= lternatively, Emacs has some user interface for doing this. It is describe= d in that info page ^^^.) Incidentally, the #org-check.org# file is some sort of automatically saved = backup. Hope this helps, --Dave p.s. I have no idea what org-check.org is, but I presume that some org proc= ess normally writes to it, and in your case, it respected the lock, but did= n't prompt you, or it did prompt you and you gave some answer other than "s= teal the lock". --------- From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org [mailto:ema= cs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=3Dnebraska.gov@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Lawren= ce Bottorff Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 15:42 PM To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [O] org-check.org confusion Any details about how this is involved with this issue? I have an #org-chec= k.org# in this directory too. Being totally a beginner with elisp hacking, = I don't know how to trace out this behavior. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: "Loyall, David" writes: > Dear orgmode users: what does that represent? =A0 =A0 (info "(emacs)Interlocking") =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Christopher From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: org-check.org confusion Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:38:21 +0100 Message-ID: <867gkps5g2.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <871ub9olre@ch.ristopher.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Hi David, "Loyall, David" wrote: > But how do I, also an Emacs newbie, know that? Well, lock files aren't > peculiar to Emacs. Have a look: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#Lock_files > > :) > > How do you remove the lock? Well, first close all your Emacs buffers (on any > machine, anywhere) that are pointed at the org-check.org file. Then see if the > lock file is still there. If it's there, and you're not editing the file in an > Emacs buffer, than the lock is stale. Manually delete it. (Alternatively, > Emacs has some user interface for doing this. It is described in that info > page ^^^.) When you open f.org, if there is an #f.org# file, Emacs will let you know: You should recover this file is displayed in the echo area. Then, simply type M-x recover-this-file, and answer: - yes, to overwrite f.org with that auto-saved version - no, to simply delete #f.org# FYI, I've customized the color `recover-this-file' with an orange background in order to clearly see that Emacs has something to tell me, even if I overlooked the msg in the echo area: ... (recover-this-file ((,class (:background "white" :background "#FF3F3F")))) Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban