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* org-check.org confusion
@ 2013-03-20 20:06 Lawrence Bottorff
  2013-03-20 20:18 ` Loyall, David
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lawrence Bottorff @ 2013-03-20 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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I got the org-check.org in my Emacs buffer. I do C-u C-c * . I watch
Messages throw this:

Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73)
Re-applying formulas to 73 lines...done
Re-applying formulas...done [2 times]
Auto-saving...

But there is no advertised re-write with "results" placed into the results
column. I then look in the directory where org-check.org is -- and I see a

.#org-check.org -> lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.11138:1363708367

I'm guessing org-check.org tried to email me "results?" The
org-check.orgfile has no email in-buffer property I can find. Please
advise.

LB

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* Re: org-check.org confusion
  2013-03-20 20:06 org-check.org confusion Lawrence Bottorff
@ 2013-03-20 20:18 ` Loyall, David
  2013-03-20 20:32   ` Christopher Schmidt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Loyall, David @ 2013-03-20 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lawrence Bottorff, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

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FYI, I don't think that email is involved here.

I think that [lawrence]@[lawrence-ThinkPad-T61].[11138]:[1363708367]

...is: [username]@[hostname].[pid or port]:[unix timestamp]

1363708367 = Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:52:47 GMT

Dear orgmode users: what does that represent?  Is it a socket?  A named pipe?

Just curious, thanks,

--Dave

From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=nebraska.gov@gnu.org [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=nebraska.gov@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Bottorff
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 15:06 PM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [O] org-check.org confusion

I got the org-check.org<http://org-check.org> in my Emacs buffer. I do C-u C-c * . I watch Messages throw this:

Re-applying formulas to full table...(line 73)
Re-applying formulas to 73 lines...done
Re-applying formulas...done [2 times]
Auto-saving...

But there is no advertised re-write with "results" placed into the results column. I then look in the directory where org-check.org<http://org-check.org> is -- and I see a

.#org-check.org<http://org-check.org> -> lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.11138:1363708367<mailto:lawrence@lawrence-ThinkPad-T61.11138:1363708367>

I'm guessing org-check.org<http://org-check.org> tried to email me "results?" The org-check.org<http://org-check.org> file has no email in-buffer property I can find. Please advise.

LB

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* Re: org-check.org confusion
  2013-03-20 20:18 ` Loyall, David
@ 2013-03-20 20:32   ` Christopher Schmidt
  2013-03-20 20:41     ` Lawrence Bottorff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Schmidt @ 2013-03-20 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

"Loyall, David" <david.loyall@nebraska.gov> writes:
> Dear orgmode users: what does that represent?

    (info "(emacs)Interlocking")

        Christopher

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* Re: org-check.org confusion
  2013-03-20 20:32   ` Christopher Schmidt
@ 2013-03-20 20:41     ` Lawrence Bottorff
  2013-03-29 22:15       ` Loyall, David
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lawrence Bottorff @ 2013-03-20 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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Any details about how this is involved with this issue? I have an #
org-check.org# in this directory too. Being totally a beginner with elisp
hacking, I don't know how to trace out this behavior.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Christopher Schmidt <
christopher@ch.ristopher.com> wrote:

> "Loyall, David" <david.loyall@nebraska.gov> writes:
> > Dear orgmode users: what does that represent?
>
>     (info "(emacs)Interlocking")
>
>         Christopher
>
>

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* Re: org-check.org confusion
  2013-03-20 20:41     ` Lawrence Bottorff
@ 2013-03-29 22:15       ` Loyall, David
  2013-03-30  7:38         ` Sebastien Vauban
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Loyall, David @ 2013-03-29 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lawrence Bottorff, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Well, to access the documentation about this:
	M-: (info "(emacs)Interlocking") <RET>

...This tells us that the file you saw in the directory is a lock.

The solution is to remove the lock, then try again.

But how do I, also an Emacs newbie, know that?  Well, lock files aren't peculiar to Emacs.  Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#Lock_files

:)

How do you remove the lock?  Well, first close all your Emacs buffers (on any machine, anywhere) that are pointed at the org-check.org file.  Then see if the lock file is still there.  If it's there, and you're not editing the file in an Emacs buffer, than the lock is stale.  Manually delete it.  (Alternatively, Emacs has some user interface for doing this.  It is described in that info page ^^^.)

Incidentally, the #org-check.org# file is some sort of automatically saved backup.

Hope this helps,
--Dave

p.s. I have no idea what org-check.org is, but I presume that some org process normally writes to it, and in your case, it respected the lock, but didn't prompt you, or it did prompt you and you gave some answer other than "steal the lock".


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From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=nebraska.gov@gnu.org [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+david.loyall=nebraska.gov@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Bottorff
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 15:42 PM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [O] org-check.org confusion

Any details about how this is involved with this issue? I have an #org-check.org# in this directory too. Being totally a beginner with elisp hacking, I don't know how to trace out this behavior.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Christopher Schmidt <christopher@ch.ristopher.com> wrote:
"Loyall, David" <david.loyall@nebraska.gov> writes:
> Dear orgmode users: what does that represent?
    (info "(emacs)Interlocking")

        Christopher

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* Re: org-check.org confusion
  2013-03-29 22:15       ` Loyall, David
@ 2013-03-30  7:38         ` Sebastien Vauban
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2013-03-30  7:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

Hi David,

"Loyall, David" wrote:
> But how do I, also an Emacs newbie, know that? Well, lock files aren't
> peculiar to Emacs. Have a look:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#Lock_files
>
> :)
>
> How do you remove the lock? Well, first close all your Emacs buffers (on any
> machine, anywhere) that are pointed at the org-check.org file. Then see if the
> lock file is still there. If it's there, and you're not editing the file in an
> Emacs buffer, than the lock is stale. Manually delete it. (Alternatively,
> Emacs has some user interface for doing this. It is described in that info
> page ^^^.)

When you open f.org, if there is an #f.org# file, Emacs will let you know:

  You should recover this file

is displayed in the echo area.

Then, simply type M-x recover-this-file, and answer:

- yes, to overwrite f.org with that auto-saved version
- no, to simply delete #f.org#

FYI, I've customized the color `recover-this-file' with an orange background
in order to clearly see that Emacs has something to tell me, even if I
overlooked the msg in the echo area:

  ... (recover-this-file ((,class (:background "white" :background "#FF3F3F"))))

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban

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