From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Disable menu bar mode Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:37:06 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <867etjh299.fsf@zoho.com> References: <7816d4f5-f412-4a7e-8aa2-ce45a489e9ed@googlegroups.com> <6eb917e5-a6a3-46b2-b6c5-7b2488647935@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513651117 3954 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2017 02:38:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 02:38:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 19 03:38:33 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eR7nc-0000Mw-5y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:38:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38661 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR7pX-0005E4-5h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:40:31 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ki1qNFiEgsPs0GmXn3Dk/A.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:bwF1jstHAupmV+VcOXWcvQaKqtM= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:221276 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115391 Archived-At: Rusi wrote: > My init has (scroll-bar-mode 0) > (tool-bar-mode 0) (setq > inhibit-startup-message t) (setq > initial-scratch-message nil) ;(fringe-mode 1) > ;(menu-bar-mode 0) > > Has been so for years… > > [The menu-bar-mode was probably commented out > after I started using org mode] > > IOW the complaint is with the confusing and > incomplete documentation: «nil = true (turn > on)?? So what is false then?» What's with the angle bracket quotes? Here is what the docstring to `scroll-bar-mode' actually say: With a prefix argument ARG, enable Scroll Bar mode if ARG is positive, and disable it otherwise. If called from Lisp, enable the mode if ARG is omitted or nil. It is the last sentence that perhaps is missing "If called from Lisp *the same rule applies but it is also possible* to enable the mode if ARG is omitted or nil. As it stands, it sounds like in Lips, there is another set of rules altogether, and you are left in the dark as how to *disable* it... But Rusi seems to be upset about something else, quoting fictitious documentation? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573