From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: new help message in Emacs 25 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:11:04 +0200 Message-ID: <867ebr7btz.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <8636mg9o5q.fsf@zoho.eu> <28b9fb52-cb67-41a9-b5ed-4d2d3bbcf094@default> <86o95486ue.fsf@zoho.eu> <86v9zb7vn8.fsf@zoho.eu> <8736mfoi9w.fsf@gmx.de> <87y347mtw4.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="153724"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 18 14:12:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5tp-000dra-6C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:12:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5to-0005EU-5C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:12:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5t0-0004rj-G7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5sx-00020I-Js for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=40906 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5sn-0001mi-Kn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hH5sl-000cfv-Nb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:11:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:LpDri+6LukTxgis475enWy+HPV4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119983 Archived-At: Michael Albinus wrote: > There are serious and important in the upward > direction, so we have 4 severities at all. > I doubt, that 6 severities instead of 4 > severities would be a big win. How about 7 instead of 4? The 7th could then be "catastrophicaldisastrous"! Like, not so long ago, when Emacs crashed on me, with a segfault C error message (if that is a proper, proper as in descriptive, description of what was outputted), when Emacs crashed on me simply because I didn't have (package-initialize) first in my ~/.emacs , but instead in a file that was loaded later, a file that related to [M]ELPA packages! [1] When I brought the crash situation up, it received limited attention save from one person, while another person closed the case by saying the issue is perhaps already solved, in Emacs 26! But in retrospect, I'm happy to put that whole debacle on myself. I should have filed it a bug, with the correct pseudo-header up front! [1] http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/emacs-init/elpa.el Yeah, I should rename that file... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573