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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some experience with the igc branch
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 15:26:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <867c7n28sf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21pxvc3l9.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:08:34 +0100)

> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com,  ofv@wanadoo.es,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>   eller.helmut@gmail.com,  acorallo@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:08:34 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > So why are those unsafe?  Because they access Lisp objects, or for
> > some other reason?
> 
> What do you mean with unsafe? We are accessing an object's memory. That
> memory may potentially be protected by a barrier.

That's what I meant by "unsafe".  I'm still wrapping my head around
this stuff, so apologies if I ask stupid questions.  Here's another
one: why accessing the same object's memory that may be protected by a
barrier OK from the main (a.k.a. "Lisp") thread, when MPS could have
meanwhile started GC asynchronously?  IOW, how is this "normal" access
to Lisp objects different from access from a signal handler?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-25 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-22 15:40 Some experience with the igc branch Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-22 17:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:29 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:41 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 17:56   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 19:11   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23  0:05     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23  1:00       ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-24 22:34         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25  4:25           ` Freezing frame with igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 11:19             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 11:55             ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-23  3:42       ` Some experience with the igc branch Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23  6:27     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-22 20:29   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-22 20:50   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 22:26     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23  3:23       ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]         ` <m234ieddeu.fsf_-_@gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <87ttaueqp9.fsf@protonmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <m2frme921u.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <87ldw6ejkv.fsf@protonmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <m2bjx2h8dh.fsf@gmail.com>
2024-12-23 14:45                   ` Make Signal handling patch platform-dependent? Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 14:54                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 13:35       ` Some experience with the igc branch Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 14:03         ` Discussion with MPS people Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 14:04           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 15:07         ` Some experience with the igc branch Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 15:26           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 16:03             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 16:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 17:16                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 18:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 18:48                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 19:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 20:30                     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-23 23:39                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 12:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 13:18                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 13:42                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24  3:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24  8:48                         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-24 13:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 13:54                             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-12-23 17:44               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 19:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 19:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 20:49                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 21:43                     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 21:49                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-23 21:58                         ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-23 23:20                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24  5:38                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-24  6:27                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 10:09                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24  4:05                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24  8:50                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24  6:03                     ` SIGPROF + SIGCHLD and igc Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24  8:23                       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-24  8:39                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25  9:22                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25  9:43                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:05                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 10:46                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 12:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:59                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-23 23:37                   ` Some experience with the igc branch Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24  4:03                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 10:25                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 10:50                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 12:56                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:19                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-24 13:38                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 13:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 14:12                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 14:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25  4:56                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 12:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 12:50                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 13:00                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 13:08                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 13:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-25 14:07                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 14:43                                               ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 14:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 20:44                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-26  6:29                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26  8:02                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-26  9:32                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 15:02                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 13:09                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 13:46                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 14:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 14:57                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 15:28                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 15:49                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 17:26                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26  5:25                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-26  7:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26  7:57                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 17:40                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 17:51                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26  5:27                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-26  5:29                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 21:18                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25  5:23                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 10:48                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 13:40                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-25 17:03                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-26  5:22                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-26  7:33                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-26  8:02                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 11:48                                   ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-25 11:58                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-25 12:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 12:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-25 12:54                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-24 12:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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