From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:45:35 +0200 Message-ID: <8663tpqgcg.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4822C648.7050901@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210239957 20913 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 09:45:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Miles Bader To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 11:46:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju2hp-00028q-Fu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 11:46:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36989 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2h7-0006NB-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2h2-0006N2-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2h0-0006MM-MZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52751 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2h0-0006MH-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:46825) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju2gz-0007JT-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:37 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 8019 invoked from network); 8 May 2008 09:45:35 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 May 2008 09:45:34 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 423FD8EEBB; Thu, 8 May 2008 11:45:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4822C648.7050901@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Thu, 08 May 2008 10:22:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.0.14; VDF: 7.0.4.15; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96747 Archived-At: Jason Rumney writes: > Miles Bader wrote: >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> It would be worthwhile to start mapping Emacs usually only after .emacs >>> has been processed and/or the command line processed. That way you can >>> select fonts, geometry, toolbar or not and so on in .emacs and have >>> emacs start right away without resizing or flicker. >>> >> >> I would _love_ it if Emacs did this, but IIRC, Gerd tried that, and got >> shot down because it was incompatible with wacky code in people's .emacs >> files. >> >> Maybe now's the time to revisit the issue though. > > Another problem with it is that it would appear that nothing is > happening as Emacs is starting. Everybody else does that, too. Possibly after doing something that changes the mouse pointer to "busy". Don't see a problem with that. -- David Kastrup