From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: The xwidget branch origin story Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 00:33:32 +0000 Message-ID: <86610offhf.fsf@gmail.com> References: <868u5n6lsi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448584442 8855 80.91.229.3 (27 Nov 2015 00:34:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 00:34:02 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 01:33:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a26z1-0007I0-8W for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:33:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a26z3-0006sN-K9 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:33:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a26z1-0006rD-42 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:33:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a26yx-0006XJ-1e for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:33:51 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a26yw-0006WN-RX for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a26yq-0006uE-Lj for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:33:40 +0100 Original-Received: from 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk ([82.69.64.228]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:33:40 +0100 Original-Received: from andrewjmoreton by 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:33:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82-69-64-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jpGPckxLd0CBqZ4poqpV132Br0s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:35 Archived-At: On Tue 24 Nov 2015, John Wiegley wrote: >>>>>> Andy Moreton writes: > >> Emacs already has lisp/widget.el and lisp/wid-edit.el with a set of widget-* >> functions used by customize. > >> Any name using widget will lead to confusion - please try to find a name >> that does not clash with an existing feature. > > Andy makes an excellent point: "widgets" (without clarification) have a > precise meaning, so "Emacs widgets" vs. "emacs-widgets" would cause a great > deal of confusion. > > We need another name for these interactive objects that can be inserted into a > buffer, whose functionality is not implemented by Emacs itself. Sort of > like... hosted components, gadgets? ... unless the facilities offered by the new code on the xwidget branch can be unified with the existing widgets package to provide a unified interface so that the same user interface features are available on a terminal or a graphical frame. Of course I expect that that involves a great deal more work... AndyM