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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
	emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:55:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8660ku7v2r.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3k29bjomb.fsf@stories> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:22:20 +0100")

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> We're moving toward a future where Emacs.git will represent "core
>> Emacs", and only contain what core needs (plus a few historical bits,
>> I'm sure). There should be no argument for keeping a project in core
>> just to gain auxiliary benefits.
>
> I'm massively unenthusiastic about this future.  Things in ELPA has to
> be backwards-and-forwards compatible with a wide Emacs version range,

no, they don't.

That is one possible policy, but each package decides for itself whether
to follow it. You can have

;; package-requires: ((emacs "25.2"))

if you want.

If you want to maintain two versions, one for older emacs, one for
newer, you'll need two different package names, similar to gtk2, gtk3.


It does appear we need a "next release" branch in ELPA git similar to
"master" in emacs git, so the released ELPA package is still available,
but those working on emacs master can access the leading edge ELPA
packages.

> Emacs doesn't seem to have a massive surfeit of developers, so I wonder
> where this plan comes from.

Several developers prefer the decoupled development cycle of ELPA
packages.

It is primarily up to the package developers whether a package is in
core or not, at least until it is clear that there is no advantage to
being in core.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-26 13:45     ` Rasmus
2017-01-26 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2017-02-01 15:09               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-15  1:15                               ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 22:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-12 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2017-02-13 19:35                             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-13 19:48                               ` [OT] What's wrong with Gnus citations? Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 20:57                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-14  3:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 14:59                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-13 20:56                               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? John Wiegley
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` [O] " Phillip Lord
2017-02-06 10:00       ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  2:22         ` John Wiegley

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