From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: does (setq Man-switches "-a") work? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:07:51 +0100 Message-ID: <865zj1teyw.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <86r21qvsyd.fsf@zoho.eu> <83lfrxomrd.fsf@gnu.org> <865zj1wti9.fsf@zoho.eu> <83d0d9odjb.fsf@gnu.org> <86r21pve8h.fsf@zoho.eu> <834kylo8r9.fsf@gnu.org> <86v9r1tu0p.fsf@zoho.eu> <831rtpo460.fsf@gnu.org> <86mucdtoo5.fsf@zoho.eu> <20191130163759.GA19306@venera.rosetta.moe> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="13110"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 30 19:30:52 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ib7W6-0003Gm-OR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:30:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36760 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ib7W4-0003Hj-LL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:30:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43593) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ib7Uk-0002iC-11 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:29:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ib7AD-00079S-Vr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:45286 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ib7AB-000794-Vl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:08:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ib79z-000o0m-8b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:07:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:+W233M4SPRltOxZrMX1U9gKiX8o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121968 Archived-At: Omar Polo wrote: > man(1) will exec less(1) (or more, or most, > or ...) to "page" the result. Yes, of course. > If I've understood correctly, emacs itself is > acting as a pager in this case paging the > result from man. Yes. > Having the headline for man(1) "Manual pager > utils" doesn't help, it's misleading in my > opinion. OpenBSD' manpage is a bit cleaner > maybe: > > $ man man > > MAN(1) General Commands Manual MAN(1) The Linux (Debian) headline is better in the sense it mentions "Manual" first, not "General Commands" which can mean anything, also it calls it "pager" which is good so people can identify it easily, the third word "utils" is good because that's what it is. But... what is a "General Commands Manual"? It is like something one would find in a trench on top of a smashed MBT-70, and then one would think, hey, maybe the CIA came up with the most bland title, so they could put state secrets in it, and still be sure no one would ever read it... >> What's pager? > > a program that "pages" something > (text generally.) Yes, of course, but here "pager" doesn't refer to just any pager but a specific a program, or actually a symbolic link: $ t pager # [1] /usr/bin/pager lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 23 Mar 18 2016 /usr/bin/pager -> /etc/alternatives/pager * links to: /bin/less -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 148K Mar 5 2016 /bin/less This (/usr/bin/pager) is maybe a Linux or Debian thing (?), it isn't on OpenBSD anyway. [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/ide (line 67) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal