From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Installing cond* in core Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: <865xzd5uv9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <868r4a6lbb.fsf@gnu.org> <868r495yo6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1458"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 16:41:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rU7Hl-0000Au-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:41:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rU7H6-0000jZ-No; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:40:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rU7H5-0000jN-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rU7H4-0002zL-Bw; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:40:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QzQ3Rs0gXmTHszHmn8q0SCXjxmrhJ2Cad2EkCldqVro=; b=p6pUXff6lvRP 438GkHRpq4nh2SY1oVJptT1YYtm3faHkeAT7CJpwtuySW7Q1MmoErMH4RPcSDYqsCUywCqbYhegCQ vMly3HrPTUGKO4h8076Xa+6Eww2mmvENv5fsvXOi+wxTLMCwqh4nwyPf5ZoEZNu4ZrvG4dwfWc1J9 ffBZGda7lWL8xYotmGfxVUaDrH5iVvdXsKH4TFv3U2OL9uC/vcq4FQOwj7mhVVRAoHqoSxaisyzhA TBGjw6/uORDALq64Dp2i9fIirTIVmmKXk4igi5kts3ng9yYYR5tWwRzyUFuaxFYrQMJ6ppb6RQIlv L06MNOQpFHx7i0swDj/+Bg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:26:22 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315558 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:26:22 +0000 > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > > I don't think I have ever intalled anything controversial without > > > discussing it on the list. > > > The problem is that "controversial" is many times only evident in > > retrospect. > > In the current case, the controversy was obvious. No, it wasn't. It is only obvious today, and even today quite a few active Emacs developers disagree that there is a problem. So please, let's stop this argument that has no useful purpose. Let's move on.