From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71117: 30.0.50; output of describe-function Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 14:38:49 +0300 Message-ID: <865xuwu9ti.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24a8c119-5b86-46f0-bbf0-e9d9d5b77713@easy-emacs.de> <87ikz5g2ou.fsf@gmail.com> <86sey966x1.fsf@gnu.org> <87ikz5v65p.fsf@gmail.com> <86h6ep5cbq.fsf@gnu.org> <86ikyxu7br.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0dl4mqd.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31760"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 71117@debbugs.gnu.org, acorallo@gnu.org, andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 29 13:40:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHfP-0007vd-OP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 13:40:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHev-00062k-Qt; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHer-000626-Qt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHer-00038v-2a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHf0-00042R-Fn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 11:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 71117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71117.171698275215433 (code B ref 71117); Wed, 29 May 2024 11:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2024 11:39:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58120 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHeB-00040q-Nu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHe9-00040V-9A for 71117@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:39:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCHds-000347-FW; Wed, 29 May 2024 07:38:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=j+VX1KlbFGXAkwl7lLLhlortvBomjvvMHnVPL6auXPU=; b=OcEcTlIRMrSLJ1M9qHDv gZIt3ALbCNh5PvjMB8Ik6uGEvlKVHKivviDaBYb7Ws7Wu4yjtJX7eDUr5Myv84qg22CnAysmnxR4H s1teC0HYeF+TxQL71rhmGSvI+j57TihX8UZ79xzDBZwJqJlAGldfDbUkQCCRvxQDC72idvGnanBIh zjHjC73RoE6+zUoyeIxEOF8G4UKnJPoP/ZymUDo/zX9KZP3P7xmmVBFh9WQxOcJ46JodL2aCbxHT2 0UwqZSimpiXtNrbtAZhN8QUHaAfIrVhXTN8qleWKQtB1OyZ6dm6smFaK4x62nZJVGV/siH945LCTb A+a6OKXUI116Ng==; In-Reply-To: <87r0dl4mqd.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec on Wed, 29 May 2024 00:04:26 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:286145 Archived-At: > From: Kévin Le Gouguec > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 71117@debbugs.gnu.org, > andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de > Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 00:04:26 +0200 > > I don't actually have concrete examples where my allegedly-not-so-smart > serving suggestion might fail 😉 The best I can come up with are > what-ifs, e.g. "what if a user advises describe-* functions to rename > *Help* buffers to something non-standard like *Help *"; First, AFAICT describe-* functions don't know about the name of the buffer. So advising them will not affect the buffer name. Second, if someone advises the functions which do know about that, they have an uphill battle to fight, and IMNSHO they get what they deserve. Last, but not least, if we want to be holier that the Pope, we can use the function help-buffer to get at the buffer, whatever its name.