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From: Joel Reicher <joel.reicher@gmail.com>
To: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com>
Cc: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enhancing ELisp for AI Work
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:06:47 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <865xn7dll4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v7v9f3uh.fsf@librehacker.com> (Christopher Howard's message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2024 07:22:30 -0900")

Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> writes:

> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> LLMs are able to reason. With the amount of data they will be 
>> -- and probably already are-- much stronger in 
>> reasoning/deduction then humans.
>>
>> LLMs are creativ, constructing new terms from reasoning.
>
> The point of the previous article was to demonstrate that LLMs 
> do not reason, or more particularly, attempt to determine 
> truth. They simply try to calculate what is the next most likely 
> and natural thing you expect to see in a flow of 
> words. Sometimes you get something true out of that, often times 
> you get something that is either false or shallow.

I'm really hesitant to contribute to a thread that's probably 
off-topic, but I'd like to suggest that an LLM's output is perhaps 
best thought of as quoted text, so it is neither true nor false.

The quotes are only removed when a reader reads it.

Regards,

        - Joel



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-26  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7290780.2375960.1734348492938.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2024-12-16 11:28 ` Enhancing ELisp for AI Work Andrew Goh via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-16 13:39   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-16 14:55   ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-16 16:26     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-16 17:38     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17  6:24       ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-17 10:29         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17 10:34         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17 11:40           ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-17 21:35             ` Jean Louis
2024-12-18  5:04               ` tomas
2024-12-24 10:57               ` Andreas Röhler
2024-12-24 15:25                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-25 20:20                   ` Andreas Röhler
2024-12-26  8:37                     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-24 16:22                 ` Christopher Howard
2024-12-26  6:06                   ` Joel Reicher [this message]
2024-12-24 21:27                 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-24 21:58                 ` Is ChatGPT bullshit? tomas

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