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[133.232.153.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m21sm70329666pgh.4.2017.02.03.15.54.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:54:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87shnuq1z2.fsf@flea> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211946 Archived-At: > 2017/02/04 8:38=E3=80=81Ted Zlatanov =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1= =E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB: > Your implicit assumption here is that if any part of a service = involves > nonfree software (in this case, Docker Hub account registration and > maintenance), then using any other part of the service (in this case, > Docker Hub as an image repository) is against this purpose. >=20 > That specific assumption, in my opinion, is overreaching and does not > serve the original purpose you quoted, yet it has become an important > argument for the FSF. Instead of arguing here, why don't you ask Docker Hub why they require = non-free software for such a trivial task and try to convince them to = not do that? *That* would better promote free software than having Emacs hosted there = while ignoring the non-free aspects of the system. A much better way to spend your energy in my opinion. Jean-Christophe Helary=20=