From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: carbon build hangs on startup Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:05:51 -0700 Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA Message-ID: <864ph32cds.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <200710062009.l96K9uNb021892@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191769611 32003 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2007 15:06:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:06:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 07 17:06:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IeXhx-0007gS-1d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:06:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IeXhr-0007uD-Pj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IeXho-0007tz-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IeXhn-0007th-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IeXhn-0007tW-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IeXhm-0004oL-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:06:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IeXhi-0000nm-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: from merlyn by blue.stonehenge.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:06:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blue.stonehenge.com x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.14.12.18; tzolkin = 13 Etznab; haab = 6 Yax User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6qX1ZbJWPwLRxkxCF8cNDSC/NkM= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80379 Archived-At: >>>>> "Dan" == Dan Nicolaescu writes: Dan> The Carbon port on CVS trunk has been abandoned by its maintainers and Dan> it is known to be broken. If you don't intend to work on fixing it, Dan> it is better to avoid it. The X11 port should still work ... For some meaning of "work". I don't fire up X11 on my mac more than once every month or two. But I use Carbon Emacs every day... it's essential in my workflow. What kind of skills are needed to make Carbon Emacs "work" again? Maybe I can go to the OSX mailing lists and plea for someone to pick up the cause. But I need to know what skills a person will need. Can someone at least outline that? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!