From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
Geoffrey Teale <tealeg@member.fsf.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:48:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <864p6rscjm.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buood4zsh0v.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:12:00 +0900")
Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
> Given that debian have reasonable goals, and aren't doing anything
> egregiously stupid (no comment on that one, just assuming for the
> moment... :-),
At a sufficiently advanced level, egregiously smart and egregiously
stupid become indistinguishable.
> it would be nice if emacs' default mechanisms would aid what they're
> doing. If there are conflicts, I think in many cases that means
> emacs' mechanisms should be extended, rather than meaning debian
> should give up their goals.
There is no point in separating the .elc from the .el as far as I can
see. That is just begging for search path related conflicts and
different load path shadows for .el and .elc. And since Debian is
restricted to platforms supporting symlinks, you don't even save any
disk space worth noting by working from a single .el directory.
So I don't see a point in making Emacs support what can only be called a
misguided configuration.
--
David Kastrup
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2008-07-14 11:05 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-11 19:17 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-11 20:45 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:57 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 19:46 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-12 20:17 ` David Kastrup
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2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 20:40 ` David Robinow
2008-07-12 22:47 ` Bastien
2008-07-13 19:10 ` Richard M Stallman
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2008-07-14 8:43 ` Claus
2008-07-15 3:06 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-07-14 17:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 20:46 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 21:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 22:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 22:53 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 23:46 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 10:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-14 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 17:39 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-14 19:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-15 20:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 21:02 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-15 23:42 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-16 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-16 1:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-16 2:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-16 3:01 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-16 4:44 ` Thomas Lord
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2008-07-14 10:45 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 12:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 12:20 ` joakim
2008-07-14 12:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 21:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-13 23:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 23:22 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-14 20:42 ` Don Armstrong
2008-07-14 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:36 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-16 15:20 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-16 22:04 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-16 21:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-16 22:17 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-17 8:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-14 22:30 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 23:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-15 1:05 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs Miles Bader
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2008-07-15 21:53 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:22 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-16 15:22 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-16 20:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-16 22:26 ` Manoj Srivastava
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2008-07-18 9:08 ` Agustin Martin
2008-07-15 1:38 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Don Armstrong
2008-07-15 2:20 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs Stefan Monnier
2008-07-15 6:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-07-15 6:55 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-15 10:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 10:08 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:09 ` Manoj Srivastava
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2008-07-16 19:43 ` Karl Fogel
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2008-07-16 21:59 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-21 21:26 ` Karl Fogel
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2008-07-22 14:21 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-23 5:13 ` Michael Olson
2008-07-23 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 17:44 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-24 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-22 14:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-14 1:42 ` Emacs vista build failures Stefan Monnier
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2008-07-14 17:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-14 19:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 8:28 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-15 7:54 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-15 8:52 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-15 8:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-15 17:14 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-17 22:54 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-17 23:48 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-19 17:06 ` Richard M Stallman
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2008-07-20 17:21 ` Richard M Stallman
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2008-07-21 11:29 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-21 17:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-07-21 18:05 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-21 19:30 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-22 8:26 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-22 13:58 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-22 17:22 ` James Cloos
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2008-07-22 20:19 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 22:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2008-07-23 6:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 20:06 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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2008-07-22 20:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-21 23:11 ` David Kastrup
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2008-07-22 13:24 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 13:51 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-22 15:21 ` David Kastrup
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2008-07-22 3:41 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-22 14:39 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 14:47 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 14:52 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 15:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-22 18:52 ` Sven Joachim
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2008-07-22 14:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 14:37 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-23 3:40 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-24 3:34 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-24 3:29 ` Johannes Weiner
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2008-07-24 23:15 ` Nick Roberts
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2008-07-26 20:31 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-26 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2008-07-26 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 8:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-26 8:50 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-26 9:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-26 9:50 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-26 9:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-26 10:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-26 10:32 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-26 11:11 ` David Kastrup
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