From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:24:55 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <864p6fct3s.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87od4wgg8p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86od4vmi5i.fsf@lifelogs.com> <873am6n21q.fsf@jurta.org> <87sku5if8t.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87od4sti4g.fsf@jurta.org> <867ibcekf3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wvsut39.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216905969 12958 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 13:26:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:26:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 15:26:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM0qQ-0002uX-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:26:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0pW-0006wC-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0og-0006XU-2B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:25:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0oe-0006WX-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59881 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0oe-0006WP-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:39922 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM0od-0003DH-TX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0oZ-00009A-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:25:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6CtDwJL3bDKRaKBBVfnKfYU2XD8= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101383 Archived-At: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:35:38 +0300 Juri Linkov wrote: JL> When I type TAB in the empty minibuffer, I really want to see all JL> completions even when the list is really long, to be able to use isearch JL> to find a completion candidate etc. Everyone who wants to narrow the JL> completion list can type the first word like "latin TAB", so I think the JL> current completion behavior is satisfactory. On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:18:08 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: SM> Try * A TAB: the completion list will show the complete names, but only SM> for those char names that contain an A, so * A P L TAB will list all the SM> chars that contain "APL" in their name. The problem is that you don't know that something at the end begins with ZETA until you go to the end of the list. When you know what's in the list, isearch, partial-completion-mode, icicles, etc. work great. I don't think they should be disabled in favor of categorization, only that when there's too much information for a screenful it should be condensed (maybe something like folding-mode can be used to hide the things in a category?) Ted