From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:52:49 +0200 Message-ID: <864mdg8yfi.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455112414 22797 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 13:53:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:53:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 14:53:25 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCs-00015z-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:53:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39438 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCs-0005jm-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCn-0005i7-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:53:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCi-0005wY-Sk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:53:17 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCi-0005w8-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:53:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTVCc-0000s2-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:53:06 +0100 Original-Received: from 193.64.3.205 ([193.64.3.205]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:53:06 +0100 Original-Received: from Adrian.B.Robert by 193.64.3.205 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:53:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.64.3.205 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+E77nSq7k4HpZQJVwOeF74WlcJk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199689 Archived-At: Artur Malabarba writes: > Char folding is primarily about being able to easily search for > characters that you can't easily type. It also has secondary uses, > like searching when you're not even sure which character you want to > search for, but I'm focusing on the first. Thank you. I wish there were more posting of actual use cases like this in the present discussion. I feel like a lot of the posts so far are along the lines of "Because X, I don't want this to be the *default*", which it isn't going to be anyway, and very few are about "I want character folding so I can *do* Y." So far I've seen: 1) Easily search for not-easily typable characters, by casting a wide net. 2) Search for composed and decomposed variants of the same character. Note that these would be best served by two *different* features. #2 by true unicode-composition folding, and #1 by broader "optical" classes that are roughly but not exactly captured by searching for any character whose decomposition contains the template. Are there any other things that people *would like* to do with character folding (besides turn it off if it got in their way)?