From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.discuss,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: aioe (was: Re: Is there a problem with Gmane at the moment?) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 00:43:57 +0200 Message-ID: <864m9z0wnm.fsf@student.uu.se> References: <864ma15sjs.fsf@student.uu.se> <86y47d4dt3.fsf@student.uu.se> <864ma1fdtf.fsf@student.uu.se> <87r3d5j9oz.fsf@gnus.org> <8660ugtdsj.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> <861t54td7a.fsf@student.uu.se> <86bn47ka9m.fsf@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463352279 30139 80.91.229.3 (15 May 2016 22:44:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 22:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: gmane-discuss@quimby.gnus.org Original-X-From: gmane-discuss-bounces@hawk.netfonds.no Mon May 16 00:44:29 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gd-gmane-discuss@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b24lo-0002Kf-Ft for gd-gmane-discuss@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=quimby.gnus.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1b24lo-0004GZ-4m; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:20 +0200 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1b24ln-0004GT-8E for gmane-discuss@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:19 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b24le-0002AQ-Px for gmane-discuss@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:11 +0200 Original-Received: from c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.230.225.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:10 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 May 2016 00:44:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: gmane-discuss@quimby.gnus.org Original-Followup-To: gmane.discuss Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:BazFUYrc6UXXTY7WM9EjIukJh9s= X-BeenThere: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gmane-discuss-bounces@hawk.netfonds.no Original-Sender: "Gmane-discuss" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.discuss:17062 gmane.emacs.help:109967 Archived-At: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> writes: > Which is why your cross-post to gmane.discuss > appeared almost instantly. Because that list > happens to be hosted locally by gmane, and when it > accepted and set out the post, it appeared on gmane > in the emacs group as well, even tho that server is > broken and not returning posts at this time. > > ... > > It depends on the exact mechanism both gmane and > your news client use to process cross-posts. > If gmane is actually posting them to all > cross-posted groups, subscription wouldn't matter. OK, let's see if I understand it: If Gmane does it, altho one server is down, by crossposting to a group associated with another server, that is up, all Gmane users still get it in the group associated with the server, that is down! However if the client does it, it only works for people that also subscribe to the group associated with the server, that is up! But what about all other people? They don't get it. So perhaps this method isn't that good as the post only reach a subset of the group's subscribers. Perhaps better to wait for the down server to resurface? PS. Yes, I use Gnus. -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 30 Blogomatic articles -