From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: improvements to the "lossage buffer" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:56:19 +0200 Message-ID: <864l335dyk.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="129845"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 31 00:56:39 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2t-000Xgn-JS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:56:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36698 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2s-00073Y-LQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2l-000737-Jl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:56:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2k-0003ab-F8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:58740 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2k-0003V8-7E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsb2f-000XTq-HZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:56:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:h/4sfS1zPF+DqYwza8Us78uWcks= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121272 Archived-At: `view-lossage' seems to have improved in a recent Emacs version upgrade, since it now displays a neat flow of information with one key (or one key sequence) on each row with, even more of an improvement, the name of the command in square brackets following the key. E.g., k [next-line] i [previous-line] k [next-line] RET [buffer-menu-kill-and-open] C-j e . [anonymous-command] ESC o [other-window-or-split] ESC o [other-window-or-split] ESC o [other-window-or-split] ESC p [delete-other-windows] C-o k [end-of-buffer] C-h l [view-lossage] This is much better than the old version which looked like a jungle. Not speaking literally, that is! To make it even clearer, why don't you consider putting the command name in a column of its own? This would also make the brackets redundant. Also, isn't, e.g. M-o more used than "ESC o", both in speech/writing _and_ in code - and isn't it more intuitive as well? I.e., wouldn't this be even better - and improvement on the improvement, if you will? k next-line i previous-line k next-line RET buffer-menu-kill-and-open C-j e . anonymous-command M-o other-window-or-split M-o other-window-or-split M-o other-window-or-split M-p delete-other-windows C-o k end-of-buffer C-h l view-lossage I think so! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal