From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Ace-window in Emacs core for switching windows? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:00:51 +0300 Message-ID: <864j9bhvng.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y16s1z61.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <868qyq67hr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ikxrflie.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5710"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ohwoeowho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jeremy Bryant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 07:01:37 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sNmgw-0001AH-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 07:01:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNmgK-0006nU-UH; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNmgH-0006mp-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:00:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNmgH-0004PV-Cs; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:00:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XUIGa+qDF2t5O3aFiPrPbEm3JgF/7QJgwo0AIPZKKk0=; b=CyHJ4ULn3GjC V5oAVwWyPq5yBJz1k5djF8ltxGIwtoeBgAyaPXWVxmfiuV/eXpcWwUL8+/oNoowU4Arjuj3Ej4oKJ EovUNAhFTO6ym/8eOjO7nEnQXJ3LDp2cSseY/NQy3jQ4vxM3toy3G6tWcMd+kVoyZ3l/0M2qCNQcT v/puaR7Zg0y5YQZ+npfD2iaFP/kRDKWBSzdFREV3YY9Fc9Jzn1vu69MPlgy1RDQ5ejpe5LOxDnuRz 1wrjKN12VdWwqIGPQCsWcmYaiaavSO7f85P/pPSEZRYdrf15O5eaDWiillgvE6qbEkI+lMP0A8i85 DVri5WYg0esYF6g9VnTGdg==; In-Reply-To: <87ikxrflie.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (message from Jeremy Bryant on Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:10:33 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320910 Archived-At: > From: Jeremy Bryant > Cc: ohwoeowho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:10:33 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:37:58 +0100 > >> From: Jeremy Bryant via "Emacs development discussions." > >> > >> > >> Ace-window is a quick way to switch windows, optionally using the home > >> key row. > >> > >> It has a high rating of 89% in ELPA > >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ > >> > >> I have found it useful and also stable - It doesn't appear to undergo > >> major changes or need much ongoing maintenance. > >> > >> Could it be a candidate for absorption into Emacs core? > > > > It could be, but why is it a problem to leave it on ELPA? > > There are deployment scenarios where users can only use the Emacs > provided in the distro, with no internet access for policy or security reasons. > In particular, that means only built-in packages, without access to the internet. > > As I personally use ace-window, I found it lacking in that scenario. That argument can be applied to any ELPA package, can't it? AFAIU, the lack of Internet access situation is no longer important enough to warrant addition of packages to core. (FTR, I need to work without Internet access quite a lot, so I'm very much familiar with this situation and its problems.)