* file metadata @ 2024-10-11 22:22 Christopher Howard 2024-10-12 0:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Christopher Howard @ 2024-10-11 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or interacts with a third party metadata system? -- 📛 Christopher Howard 🚀 gemini://gem.librehacker.com 🌐 http://gem.librehacker.com בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: [External] : file metadata 2024-10-11 22:22 file metadata Christopher Howard @ 2024-10-12 0:58 ` Drew Adams 2024-10-16 19:59 ` bookmark+: legacy key syntax in Emacs 30? Christopher Howard 2024-10-12 7:16 ` file metadata Dan Hitt ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2024-10-12 0:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard, Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List > Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have non-descriptive > names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor the file contents. > It would be nice if there was some way I could display my own > description of the file next to the the file listing, say in dired. Do > we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired integration, that > provides some of kind of file metadata system, or interacts with a third > party metadata system? One approach is to bookmark a file and use a bookmark's annotation to record the metadata. If you use Bookmark+ then: You can also use tags, instead of or in addition to an annotation. You can also use an autofile bookmark, which has the same name as the file. This is just a wrapper around a file or directory: a way to attach meta information (such as tags or an annotation) to it. But you can use an autofile bookmark much as you would use a file or directory. See: * Annotations: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#BookmarkAnnotations * Tags: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#BookmarkTags * Autofiles: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#AutofileBookmarks ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bookmark+: legacy key syntax in Emacs 30? 2024-10-12 0:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams @ 2024-10-16 19:59 ` Christopher Howard 2024-10-17 7:34 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Christopher Howard @ 2024-10-16 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Drew Adams; +Cc: Emacs Devel Mailing List I downloaded the latest files from the wiki but am still getting the same error when I require 'bookmark+. I do not know much about keymaps at this point, but the offending line is in bookmark+-key.el: ``` elisp (define-key ctl-x-map "rK" 'bmkp-set-desktop-bookmark) ; `C-x r K' (also `C-x x K', `C-x x c K') ``` I see in the Emacs 30 documentation at least that define-key is considered now a legacy function, and `keymap-set' is recommended instead. Perhaps something broke in define-key from 29->30, so that it no longer recognizes correctly the legacy string syntax? I'm CC'ing emacs-devel in hopes that an SME will weigh in on this. -- Christopher Howard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: bookmark+: legacy key syntax in Emacs 30? 2024-10-16 19:59 ` bookmark+: legacy key syntax in Emacs 30? Christopher Howard @ 2024-10-17 7:34 ` Robert Pluim 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Robert Pluim @ 2024-10-17 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Drew Adams, Emacs Devel Mailing List >>>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:59:27 -0800, Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> said: Christopher> I downloaded the latest files from the wiki but am still getting the same error when I require 'bookmark+. Christopher> I do not know much about keymaps at this point, but the offending line is in bookmark+-key.el: Christopher> ``` elisp Christopher> (define-key ctl-x-map "rK" 'bmkp-set-desktop-bookmark) ; `C-x r K' (also `C-x x K', `C-x x c K') Christopher> ``` Christopher> I see in the Emacs 30 documentation at least that define-key is Christopher> considered now a legacy function, and `keymap-set' is recommended Christopher> instead. Perhaps something broke in define-key from 29->30, so that it Christopher> no longer recognizes correctly the legacy string syntax? Thatʼs possible, but in this case I canʼt reproduce your error. That syntax is perfectly legal, and will remain so. Christopher> I'm CC'ing emacs-devel in hopes that an SME will weigh in on this. Does this happen when you byte-compile the bookmark+ files? Or only when you use the .el files? Robert -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-11 22:22 file metadata Christopher Howard 2024-10-12 0:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams @ 2024-10-12 7:16 ` Dan Hitt 2024-10-14 14:47 ` Christopher Howard 2024-10-13 22:54 ` Jean Louis 2024-10-14 22:15 ` James Thomas 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dan Hitt @ 2024-10-12 7:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List That's a really good question. You didn't mention your underlying OS or filesystem, although i guess we'd want emacs to work with whatever metadata system is present. Do you already have some extra metadata assigned (say with an attribute called 'description') through (e.g.) ext4? dan On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 3:23 PM Christopher Howard < christopher@librehacker.com> wrote: > Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have non-descriptive > names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor the file contents. It > would be nice if there was some way I could display my own description of > the file next to the the file listing, say in dired. Do we have any kind of > extension, ideally with dired integration, that provides some of kind of > file metadata system, or interacts with a third party metadata system? > > -- > 📛 Christopher Howard > 🚀 gemini://gem.librehacker.com > 🌐 http://gem.librehacker.com > > בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-12 7:16 ` file metadata Dan Hitt @ 2024-10-14 14:47 ` Christopher Howard 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Christopher Howard @ 2024-10-14 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Hitt; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List Dan Hitt <dan.hitt@gmail.com> writes: > You didn't mention your underlying OS or filesystem, although i guess we'd > want emacs to work with whatever metadata system is present. > I am using ext4, and Emacs 30.0.91 (build 12, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-10-09. I am running Guix System x86_64. > Do you already have some extra metadata assigned (say with an attribute > called 'description') through (e.g.) ext4? > I do not, but I am opened minded regarding this. -- Christopher Howard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-11 22:22 file metadata Christopher Howard 2024-10-12 0:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams 2024-10-12 7:16 ` file metadata Dan Hitt @ 2024-10-13 22:54 ` Jean Louis 2024-10-14 22:15 ` James Thomas 3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2024-10-13 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List * Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> [2024-10-12 01:24]: > Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or interacts with a third party metadata system? Oh yes, I do that all the time, that is my main thing. I have too many documents, too many legal entities, employees, reports, and it is not possible to work with the file system only. System is fully functional, though it requires personal guidance and patience to be installed. Once installed, it works fine, it would fully satisfy your needs. RCD Notes & Hyperscope for GNU Emacs, The Dynamic Knowledge Repository: https://gnu.support/gnu-emacs/rcd-notes-for-gnu-emacs/index.html RCD Notes for GNU Emacs is Dynamic Knowledge Repository designed as envisioned by Doug Engelbart. Backed up by PostgreSQL relational database, RCD Notes provides features such as people management also known as CRM or Customer Relationship Management, ERP or Enterprise Resource Planning, WRS or Website Revision System and Hyperscope Dynamic Knowledge Repository. It uses any kind of Emacs major modes and any kind of lightweight markup languages for editing and writing of any of elementary objects. Here is small video demonstration: https://gnu.support/images/2024/10/2024-10-14/2024-10-14-01:48:10.ogv It has tags, tag types, each tag can have tags, different language, related person, rank, system is actually extensible on the go, it has 85 different rather fixed properties for each elementary object, plus unlimited properties, with unlimited property types, types, subtypes, all extensible and customizable by user. It's fantastic, it is also good money maker system for me. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns ✡️🛡️ Proudly standing with Israel, a nation rooted in history and culture. Let's condemn hatred and promote understanding. In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-11 22:22 file metadata Christopher Howard ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2024-10-13 22:54 ` Jean Louis @ 2024-10-14 22:15 ` James Thomas 2024-10-15 22:48 ` James Thomas 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: James Thomas @ 2024-10-14 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List Christopher Howard wrote: > Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have > non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor > the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could > display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, > say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired > integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or > interacts with a third party metadata system? I had a system where I used: (let ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/denote")))) (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name (file-name-with-extension filename "org")))) ...to automatically check for a corresponding denote file with metadata. Regards, James ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-14 22:15 ` James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 22:48 ` James Thomas 2024-10-15 23:32 ` James Thomas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List James Thomas wrote: > Christopher Howard wrote: > >> Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have >> non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor >> the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could >> display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, >> say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired >> integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or >> interacts with a third party metadata system? > > I had a system where I used: > > (let ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/denote")))) > (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name > (file-name-with-extension filename "org")))) > > ...to automatically check for a corresponding denote file with metadata. Wth, I decided to write it again. Sharing if useful for Denote users: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; Metadata for files (defun denote-metadata (file) (interactive (list (read-file-name "Metadata for file: "))) (find-file (let* ((backup-directory-alist `(("." . ,(denote-directory)))) (name (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name file)))) (expand-file-name (concat (denote-get-identifier) "--" (file-name-nondirectory name) ".org") (file-name-directory name)))))) (defun my/dired-mark-files-with-metadata nil (interactive) (save-excursion (let* ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "/"))) (d (file-relative-name (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name default-directory)) "/")) temp (hits 0)) (mapcar (lambda (f) (goto-char (point-min)) (when (search-forward-regexp (format "\\s %s[*@]?$" (file-name-sans-extension (string-remove-prefix d (string-trim-left f (concat denote-id-regexp "--"))))) nil t) (setq hits (1+ hits)) (dired-mark 1))) (directory-files (denote-directory) nil (concat "\\`" denote-id-regexp "--" d))) (message "%d files with metadata marked" hits)))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-15 22:48 ` James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 23:32 ` James Thomas 2024-10-15 23:36 ` James Thomas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List James Thomas wrote: > James Thomas wrote: > >> Christopher Howard wrote: >> >>> Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have >>> non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor >>> the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could >>> display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, >>> say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired >>> integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or >>> interacts with a third party metadata system? >> >> I had a system where I used: >> >> (let ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/denote")))) >> (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name >> (file-name-with-extension filename "org")))) >> >> ...to automatically check for a corresponding denote file with metadata. > > Wth, I decided to write it again. Sharing if useful for Denote users: Updated version that accounts for 'keywords' (_after_ the original file extension): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; Metadata for files (defun denote-metadata (file) (interactive (list (read-file-name "Metadata for file: "))) (find-file (let* ((backup-directory-alist `(("." . ,(denote-directory)))) (name (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name file)))) (expand-file-name (concat (denote-get-identifier) "--" (file-name-nondirectory name) ".org") (file-name-directory name)))))) (defun my/dired-mark-files-with-metadata nil (interactive) (save-excursion (let* ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "/"))) (d (file-relative-name (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name default-directory)) "/")) temp (hits 0)) (mapcar (lambda (f) (goto-char (point-min)) (when (search-forward-regexp (format "\\s %s[*@]?$" (string-remove-suffix (if (setq temp (denote-retrieve-filename-keywords f)) (concat "__" temp) "") (file-name-sans-extension (string-remove-prefix d (string-trim-left f (concat denote-id-regexp "--")))))) nil t) (setq hits (1+ hits)) (dired-mark 1))) (directory-files (denote-directory) nil (concat "\\`" denote-id-regexp "--" d))) (message "%d files with metadata marked" hits)))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-15 23:32 ` James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 23:36 ` James Thomas 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: James Thomas @ 2024-10-15 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher Howard; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List James Thomas wrote: > James Thomas wrote: > >> James Thomas wrote: >> >>> Christopher Howard wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have >>>> non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor >>>> the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could >>>> display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, >>>> say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired >>>> integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or >>>> interacts with a third party metadata system? >>> >>> I had a system where I used: >>> >>> (let ((backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/denote")))) >>> (make-backup-file-name-1 (expand-file-name >>> (file-name-with-extension filename "org")))) >>> >>> ...to automatically check for a corresponding denote file with metadata. >> >> Wth, I decided to write it again. Sharing if useful for Denote users: > > Updated version that accounts for 'keywords' (_after_ the original file > extension): Never mind that: breaks the first function. (I'll see myself out now) -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: file metadata [not found] <mailman.80.1728955562.19238.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2024-10-15 11:16 ` gfp 2024-10-15 20:20 ` Jean Louis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: gfp @ 2024-10-15 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2963 bytes --] Hi Jean, thanks for sharing. > System is fully functional, though it requires personal guidance and patience to be installed. Once installed, it works fine, it would fully satisfy your needs. How can I install RCD Notes & Hyperscope? Gottfried Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:54:39 +0300 From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> To: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> Cc: Help Gnu Emacs Mailing List <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> Subject: Re: file metadata Message-ID: <ZwxPrwPMkpdFqGsk@lco2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 * Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> [2024-10-12 01:24]: > Hi, I have a bunch of files in various project that have non-descriptive names, but I don't want to change the file names, nor the file contents. It would be nice if there was some way I could display my own description of the file next to the the file listing, say in dired. Do we have any kind of extension, ideally with dired integration, that provides some of kind of file metadata system, or interacts with a third party metadata system? Oh yes, I do that all the time, that is my main thing. I have too many documents, too many legal entities, employees, reports, and it is not possible to work with the file system only. System is fully functional, though it requires personal guidance and patience to be installed. Once installed, it works fine, it would fully satisfy your needs. RCD Notes & Hyperscope for GNU Emacs, The Dynamic Knowledge Repository: https://gnu.support/gnu-emacs/rcd-notes-for-gnu-emacs/index.html RCD Notes for GNU Emacs is Dynamic Knowledge Repository designed as envisioned by Doug Engelbart. Backed up by PostgreSQL relational database, RCD Notes provides features such as people management also known as CRM or Customer Relationship Management, ERP or Enterprise Resource Planning, WRS or Website Revision System and Hyperscope Dynamic Knowledge Repository. It uses any kind of Emacs major modes and any kind of lightweight markup languages for editing and writing of any of elementary objects. Here is small video demonstration: https://gnu.support/images/2024/10/2024-10-14/2024-10-14-01:48:10.ogv It has tags, tag types, each tag can have tags, different language, related person, rank, system is actually extensible on the go, it has 85 different rather fixed properties for each elementary object, plus unlimited properties, with unlimited property types, types, subtypes, all extensible and customizable by user. It's fantastic, it is also good money maker system for me. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen G. Preihs () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Why is HTML email a security nightmare? See https://useplaintext.email/ Please avoid sending me MS-Office attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html [-- Attachment #1.1.2: OpenPGP public key --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 2451 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 665 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: file metadata 2024-10-15 11:16 ` gfp @ 2024-10-15 20:20 ` Jean Louis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2024-10-15 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: gfp; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs With my persönliches Guidance. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns ✡️🛡️ Proudly standing with Israel, a nation rooted in history and culture. Let's condemn hatred and promote understanding. In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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