Eli Zaretskii writes: >> In hindsight, I'd also not mind if info-stnd.texi contained a copy of >> the Info tutorial that the Emacs info manual includes, so that the >> standalone viewers get-info-help-node works always. What do you think >> of that? > > Someone will have to do the job, and the non-traditional structure of > info.info makes that a tad harder. > > There's also an additional problem for Emacs users: if info.info is > not in Emacs, then new users of Info have no way of learning to use > Info. So I guess this will have to be some kind of duplication or > something? Hm, yes, I had taken it for granted that Texinfo is installed if Emacs is, but that might not be true. That makes duplicating the tutorial bit of info.info into info-stnd more appealing, I think. My thinking was to break out the (info)Getting Started node and its subnodes into info-tutorial.texi or such, and @include it into both manuals. There would need to be slight adjustment to the text, as not all of the first paragraph is applicable to info-stnd. Quickly skimming it, that node list appears to be closed under internal (in the sense of "within the same manual") referencing, except for a reference to *note Emacs Info Variables::, but that could be made conditionally included or a conditionally external reference. I think it's doable with fairly little cost. -- Arsen Arsenović