From: Alessandro Piras <laynor@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About Emacs Modernisation Project
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 20:41:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8639x7x3jj.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com
LanX <lanx.perl@googlemail.com> writes:
> Hi
>
> I doubt that Python would be a good choice, Perl for instance has much
> more in common with LISP.
>
> And I doubt that eLISP is the reason why many people have problems
> with emacs, it's more that many "modern" GUI mechanisms and
> terminologies are not default in emacs, which frustrates newbies.
>
>
> IMHO an alternative (but compatible ) eLISP-dialect simply allowing to
> swap parens and functionnames and to write "message(...)" instead of
> "(message...)" would increase the acceptance immidiately.
Sounds Like M-expressions. It has been tried in the past in the Lisp world,
without much success. Most programmers realize after few time the
sweetness of S-expressions and macros. I think it would just lead to a
small amount of M-expressions code that would be soon refactored as
S-expressions.. Not worth the effort I suspect.
>
> (just think of how the different syntaxes of VBScript and JScript run
> on the same engine)
>
> But the biggest issue are the data structures, most "modern" script
> languages have extensive support for _dynamic_ "hashes" and "arrays",
> but not for "linked lists" which is the main structure in elisp.
>
> No real idea how this could be solved...
>
> cheers
> Rolf
>
> PS: forgot to mention this Slasheritis in regexes, IIRC Xemacs has
> already rawstrings while GnuEmacs users are forced to escape every
> regex symbol at least twice...
__
Alessandro
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2010-05-31 15:44 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 19:41 ` Alessandro Piras [this message]
[not found] ` <c41c63c0-b934-442d-8385-1abff6ab9b0b@s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-01 0:40 ` Alessandro Piras
2010-06-02 6:07 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <87iq63wsvt.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>
2010-06-01 0:06 ` LanX
2010-06-01 8:44 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 11:19 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:56 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 6:17 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <87ljazofkn.fsf@rapttech.com.au>
2010-05-31 23:33 ` LanX
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 11:27 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:29 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 12:55 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 17:05 ` Xah Lee
2010-06-02 17:50 ` Helmut Eller
[not found] ` <87r5krh3e0.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 8:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 17:34 ` rustom
2010-06-02 12:47 ` B. T. Raven
2010-06-02 17:20 ` rustom
2010-06-01 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 23:22 ` LanX
[not found] ` <slrni0b8nm.9k6.bergv@u00.math.uiuc.edu>
2010-06-02 11:39 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <e73e123d-3f0c-4a6f-bbac-b91fb71bf07d@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-03 9:26 ` Emulating namespaces Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-03 15:33 ` LanX
2010-06-03 17:41 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <87mxvegz12.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 23:36 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 5:58 ` Evans Winner
2010-06-04 18:33 ` Joseph Brenner
2010-06-05 2:55 ` Tim X
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