From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: AI and Lisp Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 12:56:26 +0200 Message-ID: <8636h8l6hx.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <8636k0yxf6.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="145565"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 07 12:56:54 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOi-000bkd-VB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 12:56:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34184 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOh-0005Xr-Dn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 06:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOW-0005XZ-C9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 06:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOV-0005FP-86 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 06:56:40 -0400 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:48446 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOV-0005EX-0n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 06:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i6YOS-000bX0-Mb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 12:56:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:GS/4gYNR9ndWmdGLk8JrPP4fgMQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121463 Archived-At: VanL wrote: >> Where do you even start? > > From the discussions like those at [1]? > Your example is likely solved by esports > automatons created after AI crushed the Go > champions and they cry in China, Korea. > Stephen Wolfram mentions Alan Turing and Paul > Dirac. [2] I don't know how good or true [3] > is as a starter. > > [1] https://www.edge.org/conversation/w_daniel_hillis-emergences > [2] https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2019/08/a-book-from-alan-turing-and-a-mysterious-piece-of-paper/ > [3] https://pron.github.io/posts/computation-logic-algebra-pt1 OK, so after reading all these, where would you say the starting point is? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal