From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64759: Broken faces Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:35:17 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86351d5i22.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <86fs5h4vo2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fs5h1z38.fsf@gnu.org> <86bkg53cau.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86ilad1bhn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r0p19q0r.fsf@gnu.org> <86tttxywxu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o7k59kpv.fsf@gnu.org> <86h6pxyubj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lef99js7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7990"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 64759@debbugs.gnu.org, maurooaranda@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 24 19:38:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzVk-0001r8-5y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 19:38:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzVY-0006Gf-AX; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzVS-0006B9-Rq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzVS-0002uE-G6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzVS-0006Zr-8D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:38:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64759 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64759-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64759.169022024525228 (code B ref 64759); Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64759) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2023 17:37:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzUq-0006Yq-OI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]:39957) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qNzUh-0006YA-4d for 64759@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54C931BF206; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:37:07 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83lef99js7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2023 21:55:20 +0300") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265992 Archived-At: >> No, it's not the same. The latter uses a white background on the mode line. > > So I ask again: what is the semantics of nil in this case? We cannot > have in Emacs something that triggers undefined behavior, let alone > use it in our own sources. The semantics of this must be known and > documented before we can use it. The semantics of nil could be the same as '((t nil)). Do you agree that currently the value '((t nil)) should be used for faces without default face attributes?