From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#68930: 30.0.50; Emacs conflates =?UTF-8?Q?C-=CE=A9?= and =?UTF-8?Q?C-=CF=89?= Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 14:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: <8634u522mx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87cytc9cqc.fsf@protonmail.com> <86sf2713hi.fsf@gnu.org> <878r3yalww.fsf@protonmail.com> <86eddq20dx.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0hqa545.fsf@protonmail.com> <87mssea211.fsf@protonmail.com> <87bk8u8c4z.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15238"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ahprae@protonmail.com, 68930@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 06 13:35:20 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKfW-0003hs-Kg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 13:35:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKf5-0007e9-Lj; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:34:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKf3-0007do-96 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:34:49 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKf2-0004km-WE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:34:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKfF-0006Ir-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:35:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68930 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 68930-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68930.170722285524159 (code B ref 68930); Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 68930) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2024 12:34:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKeV-0006Hb-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56548) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKeT-0006HN-JR for 68930@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXKe9-0004fW-UC; Tue, 06 Feb 2024 07:33:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=koRvqwneHG7Iy782843CRdHWFXqNMDsQTD6PI/i9xxA=; b=qliJL6wJPbtsiiVuB/Es 7AINSBVGrrD+XNrxV8AmiQ2gHF7a6fbc5Db24Ucf1fiHD7ZQiMP8qJRdWtkdt6Xqv9dlkzgxMz34I q5fzZjfNMPvgoPNRtFZmLTbE8rYbF6mqAdcoJeurF0iceTW7FAdDT+NEJHRgL0AlveicGKixiSoCI uAV8xIc5PTj6CNieRfrqm81+p7Onp+PKh+r7sQ/5h8V+v14r+m0fv8wn2ITgJx96gtRZRSZ8KmG+N tmASzxorwja5uff3Vp+VsmDosDqiEbtDxTuA99KzoQd3hmeSLGHfmStLogS1a5baq5LD5D/RHzE8w Zr3HyyDdqu6GDw==; In-Reply-To: <87bk8u8c4z.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:11:56 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:279485 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 68930@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:11:56 +0800 > > Alexander Prähauser writes: > > > I just found that the same thing happens for C-δ and C-Δ, where both are > > in my keyboard layout file as Unicode letters, U03B4 and U0394 respectively. > > Why is this a bug? The characters which are "conflated" are pairs of > lower-case and upper-case characters, upper-case characters in which > Emacs decapitalizes when modifiers aside from Shift are depressed, so > that commands bound to lower-case characters with modifiers are executed > even if latches such as Caps Lock are activated. I think Alexander says that the bindings are reversed, i.e. C-Δ invokes the binding of C-δ and vice versa. That's the bug he is complaining about. Your description seems to suggest that both keys should have invoked the same command, not two different commands exactly reversed from how they were bound. Or what am I missing?