From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-o Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 16:39:11 +0300 Message-ID: <8634ordibk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87cynw7omw.fsf@dancol.org> <878qyk54fy.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2273"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dancol@dancol.org, acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 15:40:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOdk6-000AWu-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOdjG-0006nz-Hk; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOdj6-0006kn-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:39:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOdj4-0006yc-3G; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:39:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6ND0svdICEoJD3nKM5IT/TEdkdUeaZt9X56eXZ5yjZo=; b=jA2E+OFzTuzP F1yrJbDfM4FXU/PajO/HUug4pCY8jb54aKhjqYJ2f+RSCRlqRrPrCCgYapc3PtPhjkQ8gWPYnOSwR cX3qBT4/K7nNioopp7xsBGBk+tFZJ9g6r0WyuVzH6DRptj5m3IC5Au1xD97KBqkrdPe9DCY/e2GG0 UqNSZXV+Y1Le12+KNZngfCNh+rBKPo4n6YXU0meDJZvYvszEihRcXTbp6XzXoMnfgIFeiI8BUmXnt Y3bomFAhjRMl6IzcF3POxfTUajIQFkaAulOWWRLflJ7IAi0/kkZkaMDmepfc+Ddg7Ue3NlvQWfncP 0Vh7mW3FNlq80evqaOUZbw==; In-Reply-To: <878qyk54fy.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 02 Jul 2024 21:06:09 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321154 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Stefan Monnier , Daniel Colascione > , Alan Mackenzie , Stefan Kangas > , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 21:06:09 +0800 > > Dmitry Gutov writes: > > > A lot of times I used it due to the expectation that RET will reindent > > the current line and will do so incorrectly (which happens). > > > > Looks like C-j is a possible alternative, but somehow that didn't grow > > into the muscle memory, and in some buffers it does something > > different (e.g. inside *scratch*). > > For a less embellished alternative to C-j or RET, C-q C-j is probably > the better option. Only if you are young enough to not have C-j burned into your muscle memory as what RET does in most places in Emacs nowadays. Old Sun keyboards had an LFD key, and Emacs used it a lot in old versions. Which made C-j anything but a simple newline key. And having to quote a key is a sign of a key-binding bug in my book.