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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, 73404@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:53:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8634lmbs8t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frpm20t7.fsf@masteringemacs.org> (message from Mickey Petersen on Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:56:35 +0100)

> Cc: 73404@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:56:35 +0100
> 
> In my opinion, that's not what `sexp' movement is.
> 
> Sexp movement is movement by balanced expressions -- and a fallback to
> word-like behaviour absent that -- and this is not that. It would be
> better to relegate this sort of thing to its own set of keybindings.

The term "balanced expression" is not well defined in languages other
than Lisp and Lisp-like ones.  It is clear what expected when point is
on a brace or a parenthesis, but entirely NOT clear when you start
from something else.  For example:

  int foo = bar + 2 * baz;

Suppose you start with point at "foo": what would you expect
forward-sexp to do? nothing?

> > We might need to add a user option so people can easily turn off
> > tree-sitter sexp movement, since it isn’t a strict upgrade from the
> > generic sexp movement—it’s more of a different flavored sexp movement.
> 
> It should be opt-in, not opt-out.

I disagree.  Moving by sub-trees is a natural generalization of sexp
movement for languages where parentheses and braces are rare and far
in-between.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-26 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21  5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26  7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26  9:56   ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-09-26 12:13       ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21           ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  5:43               ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01  3:57                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02  6:14                       ` Yuan Fu

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