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From: Alain Schneble <a.s@realize.ch>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Asynchronous DNS
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 09:10:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861t8nmxlj.fsf@realize.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pow7ocyw.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2016 18:52:55 +1100")

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Alain Schneble <a.s@realize.ch> writes:
>
> Yeah, that's true.  It's less fragile.  But I wonder whether being that
> application friendly can sometimes be a disservice?  ...

Oh yes, indeed, it can be.  I'm with you.

>                                                 ...  If you're an
> application writer, trying to be as async as possible (that is, after
> all, why you're using :nowait 'immediate), would you prefer that random
> functions block without telling you, or that they error out?

I think the point here is that with these blocking calls in place, we
wouldn't really need a separate :nowait 'immediate, just the existing
:nowait t.  And IIUC, this is also what Eli Zaretskii proposes.  With
this model, :nowait t really means: I request as much async behavior as
possible.  But if code is not arranged in an async fashion, then well,
you might not get full async behavior.  It's your fault, but we won't
signal an error.

> Hm...  I don't know what I'd prefer, really...  *ponder*

*ponder-in-circles*




  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-08  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-23 13:50 Asynchronous DNS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-23 14:56 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-24 21:17   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25  8:58     ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 15:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:15         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 17:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:42 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24 13:53   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:01     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:14       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 19:58         ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24  4:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-24 13:56   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 17:16     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25  2:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 19:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-26 22:05 ` Florian Weimer
2016-01-30  0:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  2:39   ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30  2:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  4:11       ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30  4:34         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01  3:55           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  7:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  7:46     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30  8:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 22:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31  6:12       ` Ken Raeburn
2016-02-01  2:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31 14:03   ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01  2:08     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01  2:36       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 18:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02  1:15           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  3:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02  3:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 13:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02 17:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  0:42                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04  2:22                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04  8:18                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04  8:55                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 10:13                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-05  2:08                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  7:32                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 23:47                                     ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14  2:22                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 11:19                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14 16:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16 21:37                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20  1:28                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 17:55                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-20 20:18                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 20:33                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-21 10:29                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-26 23:54                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-27  3:57                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-27  9:22                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-28  4:43                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-28  9:44                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-29  2:59                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29  3:30                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29  8:41                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-20 19:31                                                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 19:57                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21  2:36                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21  3:03                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 18:55                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21 20:23                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22  2:15                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  3:39                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22  4:03                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  5:45                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22  2:07                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  6:26                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  6:29                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-24  6:52                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  8:27                                                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-21 19:35                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-22  2:01                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 10:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16  2:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  9:37                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04 16:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  2:31                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  2:49                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  6:41             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02  7:06               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  7:49                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02 21:27                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-03  0:22                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 10:22                     ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-04  0:18                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 11:58       ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-01 22:18           ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-02  1:54         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  2:05           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-02  2:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02  3:42           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03  0:50             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03  2:43               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04  2:25                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 16:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  2:32                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05  7:21                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05  7:33                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06  7:49                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06  8:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07  0:34                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07  1:38                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 11:41                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 19:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 20:24                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  1:55                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  3:40                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  7:40                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  7:52                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08  8:10                                           ` Alain Schneble [this message]
2016-02-09  0:37                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09  9:02                                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 13:46                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 17:00                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 20:43                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 20:48                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 23:22                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 10:39                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12  2:15                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-12 10:12                                                           ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-13  4:04                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 10:16                                                               ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14  2:20                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14  5:56                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-14  7:01                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 13:56                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-15  0:19                                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  4:22                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 16:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15  0:14                                                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  3:41                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15  4:30                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  0:02                                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15  4:39                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  6:14                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15  6:25                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:55                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 12:01                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-15 13:50                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16  2:26                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:50                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 11:06                                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 13:49                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 15:04                                                                                 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 16:40                                                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-16  2:13                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-16  6:48                                                                                       ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 18:13                                                                           ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12 10:35                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-12 11:37                                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 18:11                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  0:47                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 16:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 10:43                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 11:55                                         ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 12:55                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 14:25                                             ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 14:31                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09  0:40                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09  9:15                                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09  9:35                                                     ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 15:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:45                                   ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08  2:03                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 15:56                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 20:30                                       ` Rasmus
2016-02-09  0:34                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07  1:35                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 16:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08  2:05                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:20                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:27                             ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08  1:26                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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