From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 29.2: (void-function batch-update-autoloads)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:24:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <861q2clauk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871q2csh9l.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (emacs-devel@gnu.org)
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:23:50 +0200
> From: Uwe Brauer via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> > You can still use that function, if you want, after loading its
> > package from lisp/obsolete. If you want to migrate to the new
> > facility, the function to use is loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch,
> > defined in the new file lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el.
>
> Thanks, but it still does not work, the relevant line of the Makefile now reads
> ,----
> |
> | EMACS=/usr/local/bin/emacs
> | EMACSFLAGS=-batch --no-site-file --eval '(setq debug-on-error t)'
> |
> | autoloads:
> | $(EMACS) $(EMACSFLAGS) $(addprefix -L ,$(LOADPATH)) --eval '(setq generated-autoload-file "$(abspath $(LOADDEFS))")' -f loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch $(abspath $(LOADDIRS))
> `----
I don't know where did you take this from. In Emacs 29.2,
lisp/Makefile says something very different:
autoloads: $(lisp)/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.elc gen-lisp
$(AM_V_GEN)$(emacs) \
-l $(lisp)/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.elc \
-f loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch ${SUBDIRS_ALMOST}
> Using 29.2, but I receive still,
> (void-function loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch)
And what is the textbook solution in Emacs for void-function errors?
> >> [1] (I know it has a lot of benefits to change function and variable
> >> names, but for those who don't participate in such discussion such
> >> changes cause a bit of inconveniences to say the least)
>
> > You are being unfair to us. We never remove stuff entirely before
> > keeping it deprecated enough years to let everyone adapt.
>
> I have to admit, and that might be a very personal defect of mine, I do
> not pay much attention to the question of a function/variable being
> deprecated, since it just works, and I am sure I am not alone with this attitude.
That's not what I meant. What I meant was that you are not expected
to assume that a function that "disappeared" was summarily removed
from Emacs without any consideration for those who might still need
it. That function is still available, it was only moved to
lisp/obsolete/, that's all.
> That being said I just wished, that there would be a more centralised
> file or directory, where obsolete functions and variables were listed.
The lisp/obsolete/ directory is home for all such functions and
variables.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-25 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-25 8:52 29.2: (void-function batch-update-autoloads) Uwe Brauer via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-25 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-25 16:23 ` Uwe Brauer via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-25 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-26 12:35 ` Uwe Brauer
2024-08-26 12:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-26 13:19 ` Arash Esbati
2024-08-26 13:21 ` Uwe Brauer
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