From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is this a bug in while-let or do I missunderstand it?
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 18:44:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <861pzkmk5v.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1t9oPB-0003G7-83@fencepost.gnu.org> (ams@gnu.org)
> From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
> Cc: arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 11:33:45 -0500
>
> (while-let ((run (some-condition)))
> (message "running"))
>
> Do you expect that to evaluate (some-condition) once, then, if it’s
> initially true, run forever?
>
> That is how it is described in the manual, so yes (some-condition)
> should only be done once, and not every iteration. See (elisp)
> Conditionals .
Which could mean that the manual is wrong and needs to be fixed.
> It can be convenient to bind variables in conjunction with using a
> conditional. It's often the case that you compute a value, and then
> want to do something with that value if it's non-‘nil’. The
> straightforward way to do that is to just write, for instance:
>
> (let ((result1 (do-computation)))
> (when result1
> (let ((result2 (do-more result1)))
> (when result2
> (do-something result2)))))
>
> Since this is a very common pattern, Emacs provides a number of
> macros to make this easier and more readable. The above can be written
> the following way instead:
>
> ... following the various with various FOO-let forms, ending with
> while-let.
The above description actually supports what Yuri was saying, not what
Arthur and you expect.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-09 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 16:25 Is this a bug in while-let or do I missunderstand it? arthur miller
2024-11-08 19:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-09 3:30 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 9:29 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:03 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 13:15 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:38 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 13:41 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 13:47 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 14:04 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-09 14:44 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-09 16:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-09 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-09 17:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-11-09 18:07 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-11-09 18:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 20:02 ` Jens Schmidt
2024-11-09 20:38 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 21:18 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-10 11:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-10 12:24 ` Better documentation for non-binding clauses of if-let and friends Jens Schmidt
2024-11-10 14:51 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-10 16:58 ` Jens Schmidt
2024-11-11 10:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-11 8:20 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-09 19:32 ` Sv: [External] : Re: Is this a bug in while-let or do I missunderstand it? arthur miller
2024-11-09 22:36 ` Drew Adams
2024-11-09 22:53 ` Drew Adams
2024-11-14 21:50 ` John ff
2024-11-09 20:29 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-10 10:40 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-10 12:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-10 19:49 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 18:18 ` arthur miller
2024-11-11 5:13 ` Yuri Khan
2024-11-11 8:49 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-11 12:23 ` tomas
2024-11-11 22:41 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-12 12:45 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-12 15:32 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 23:45 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-13 9:45 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-13 9:56 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-13 11:00 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-13 12:17 ` Sean Whitton
2024-11-14 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 8:21 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-14 21:51 ` John ff
2024-11-14 21:52 ` John ff
2024-11-09 21:47 ` Sv: " Joost Kremers
2024-11-09 22:07 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-11-10 6:07 ` Andreas Schwab
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-11-12 3:36 arthur miller
2024-11-12 8:30 ` Joost Kremers
2024-11-12 17:55 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-12 3:41 arthur miller
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