From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:48:28 +0200 Message-ID: <85zlrnvvjn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <85abjnu5ss.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480C31B9.6060900@gmail.com> <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> <85mynnxhuh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480CD2D1.1020003@gmail.com> <878wz7xdgb.fsf@gmail.com> <85bq43xcq9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208807467 24436 80.91.229.12 (21 Apr 2008 19:51:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, ams@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Paul R , drew.adams@oracle.com To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 21:51:40 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jo22Y-0004JK-RH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:51:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo21c-0001OM-MT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo217-0001DD-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo210-0001Ac-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:49:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo20z-0001AQ-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jo20T-0003aw-0p; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:48:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.21]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BC34C4FA; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20ED28EDD2; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-038-079.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.38.79]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E3932E011; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 45EB11C3C7BC; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:48:28 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:04:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6865/Mon Apr 21 17:43:29 2008 on mail-in-10.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95687 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> After all: new users might give up because they don't realize that what >> fails to make them more efficient than when using other editors is only >> a default setting, not inherent to the emacs program itself. > > New users might give up because they don't realize that what fails to > make them as efficient as when using other editors is only a default > setting, not inherent to the emacs program itself. > > [It seems unfair to disregard theoretical new-user expectations unless > they suit your argument...] If you read more than a few isolated lines from a single mail before replying, you can avoid the argument going in circles. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum