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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>,
	Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Pretest
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:18:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85wt5reo3b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17760.11257.78362.216206@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Sun\, 19 Nov 2006 23\:03\:37 +1300")

Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:

>  > >  > We are currently working with emacsclient. It would be very
>  > >  > good if our changes in emacsclient were included in the
>  > >  > pretest. We need a little bit more time for resolving some
>  > >  > issues and for testing.
>  > >
>  > > It sounds like it's too late.  If the issues can't be resolved
>  > > quickly perhaps the changes should be reverted.
>  > 
>  > What sense is in reverting changes if it is too late?
>
> Too late to include changes in a pretest that is already out!  The
> changes were made after the first pretest for a bug that was deemed
> non-critical by Richard.  It seems a bit rich to ask for more time a
> month later.  If it's quicker to revert them than to resolve then
> that seems to make sense to me.

It seems like we have completely different recollections of events.
As far as I remember, Richard oked getting emacsclient to work on
Windows even after the first pretest (where emacsclient was not yet a
part of Emacs).

There is no point whatsoever in reverting to the state of the first
pretest, namely "non-working".  Whether there is sense to reverting to
a later point of development has not been discussed yet: up to now the
developers tried getting the functionality to do the right thing.
Telling them that they should stop doing so and revert to some earlier
stage would require agreement on just what this earlier state should
be.  "non-working" is what you demand.

Up to now there has been no discussion about where we should exactly
draw the line with regard to emacsclient (work is still going on), but
I don't think that "non-working" would get much support.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-19 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-18 22:14 Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-11-18 22:58 ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-18 23:32   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-11-19  0:53     ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-19  0:56   ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-19  1:01     ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-19  1:56       ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-19  2:04         ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-19  3:29           ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-19  8:45     ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 10:03       ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-19 10:18         ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-11-19 11:44           ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-19 14:13             ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-19 14:24               ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 14:42                 ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-19 14:45                 ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 15:58                   ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 19:13                     ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 19:27                       ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-20  1:15                         ` Pretest Stefan Monnier
2006-11-19 17:54                   ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-19 19:14                     ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 19:50                     ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-19 20:48                       ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 21:33                         ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 21:33                         ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-19 21:49                           ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 22:04                             ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-19 22:06                             ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 22:44                               ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-19 23:02                                 ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 23:31                                   ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-20  0:59                                     ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-20  1:20                                       ` Pretest David Kastrup
     [not found]                                         ` <45616414.2080802@student.lu.se>
2006-11-20  9:55                                           ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-20  1:20                             ` Pretest Stefan Monnier
2006-11-19 21:34                         ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-19 21:38                         ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-20 12:59               ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-19 14:19             ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-20  1:37           ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-20  3:00             ` Pretest Stefan Monnier
2006-11-20  9:01             ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-20  9:37               ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-20 10:06                 ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-20 10:50                   ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-20 10:58                     ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-20 15:30                       ` Pretest Stefan Monnier
2006-11-20 16:48                         ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-20 10:01               ` Pretest David Kastrup
2006-11-20 23:58               ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-21  0:05                 ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-22 13:15                   ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-19 12:48 ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-19 20:08   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-19 21:50   ` Pretest Reiner Steib
2006-11-20 12:59     ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-19 19:59 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-09-19 18:52 Pretest Chong Yidong
2011-09-19 21:13 ` Pretest Drew Adams
2011-09-20 15:27   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2011-09-20 21:13     ` Pretest Andy Moreton
2011-09-20 21:33       ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2011-09-21  1:27     ` Pretest Stefan Monnier
2011-09-21  2:11       ` Pretest Drew Adams
2011-09-19 22:29 ` Pretest Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-20 15:27   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2007-03-26  3:52 [david.reitter@gmail.com: file-remote-p malfunctions at site-start (file-name-handler-alist init)] Richard Stallman
2007-03-26  4:40 ` Chong Yidong
2007-03-26 13:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-26 13:37     ` Michael Albinus
2007-03-26 14:16       ` Chong Yidong
2007-03-26 14:44         ` Michael Albinus
2007-03-27 20:59           ` Chong Yidong
2007-03-31 18:47             ` Michael Albinus
2007-03-31 19:41               ` David Kastrup
2007-03-31 20:02                 ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2007-03-18  4:28 Pretest Chong Yidong
2007-03-18  4:31 ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-20  1:34 ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2007-03-20  2:05   ` Pretest Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-20  4:40   ` Pretest dhruva
2007-03-20 12:07     ` Pretest AriT93
2007-03-20 12:36       ` Pretest dhruva
2007-03-20 13:14         ` Pretest AriT93
2007-03-21 22:47   ` Pretest Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-03-09 17:46 Killing buffers with mouse Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-20 13:04 ` Pretest Angelo Graziosi
2006-11-07 20:13 Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-07 22:48 ` Pretest Miles Bader
2006-11-08  1:17   ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-08  1:41     ` Pretest Miles Bader
2006-10-28 20:33 Pretest Mikko Huhtala
2006-10-27 17:59 Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-27 18:52 ` Pretest Paul Pogonyshev
2006-10-27 19:12 ` Pretest David Hansen
2006-10-28 11:31   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-15 21:35     ` Pretest Reiner Steib
2006-11-15 22:51       ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-10-27 19:38 ` Pretest Kim F. Storm
2006-10-28 11:17   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-29 18:45     ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-29 20:20       ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-27 20:01 ` Pretest joakim
2006-10-27 21:11 ` Pretest Giorgos Keramidas
2006-10-28  2:30 ` Pretest Andrew M. Scott
2006-10-28  8:11 ` Pretest Yoni Rabkin Katzenell
2006-10-28  8:46 ` Pretest Andreas Roehler
2006-10-28 11:01 ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-10-28 13:14   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-28 21:47     ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-10-29  4:30       ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-29 11:17         ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-10-29 11:47           ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-30 13:33             ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-30 21:12               ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-01  2:12                 ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-04 12:15           ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 22:23             ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-05  6:15               ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-05 12:39                 ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-05 12:41                 ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-10-28 11:13 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-28 13:30 ` Pretest Benjamin Riefenstahl
2006-10-28 15:25   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 13:38 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-28 15:53   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 19:05     ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-29 21:36       ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30  4:25         ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-30 14:21           ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 14:28 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-28 15:01   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 19:28     ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-28 20:47       ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-29  7:43         ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-29 22:11           ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30 21:50             ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-30 22:04               ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-31  4:09                 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-30 13:33           ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-30 21:02             ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-01  2:12               ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  4:14                 ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-02  4:42                   ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-02 19:54                     ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-03  7:08                       ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-04 13:50                         ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-05  7:08                           ` Pretest Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
2006-10-28 15:08   ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-28 20:52     ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 21:11       ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-28 22:09         ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-28 22:30           ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-29 23:40             ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30  0:33               ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-30 14:12                 ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30 19:57                   ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-30 20:18                     ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30 20:34                       ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-30 22:18                         ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-30 23:00                           ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-11-01  2:12                         ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-02 14:10                           ` Pretest Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-28 18:13 ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-28 19:02   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-29 18:49     ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-29 20:22       ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-30 19:16         ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-11-03 15:39   ` Pretest Drew Adams
2006-11-03 19:22     ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-03 19:51       ` Pretest Lennart Borgman
2006-11-03 20:02         ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-03 20:48     ` Pretest Nick Roberts
2006-11-04 15:26     ` Pretest Richard Stallman
2006-10-30 20:04 ` Pretest Paul Jarc
2006-10-30 23:13   ` Pretest Chong Yidong
2006-10-31  9:44 ` Pretest Jim Thompson
2006-11-05 23:30 ` Pretest Bill Wohler
2006-11-06  0:01   ` Pretest Jason Rumney
2006-11-06  4:22   ` Pretest Eli Zaretskii

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