From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs documentation sources Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:53:00 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <85ve9x431f.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <711a73df0709260104l97cb41ft5fee3a882cef05c9@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190839359 30260 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2007 20:42:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:42:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 22:42:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IadiK-0006fy-0S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:42:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IadiG-0001f8-NP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:42:28 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feeder.news-service.com!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:11sV8iiONyIjH4tyrTryh90TMt0= Original-Lines: 18 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Sep 2007 21:53:00 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 3c5f3129.newsspool1.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=KKIZ`YV6UL5T2Rfi64Fo<]lROoR14nDHegD_]R5CgS?FYWX2d2CV`H8_`hhQ4^9QSCVg3dO6OIC5DBZVJ9; 5h]a]^7@9V>9lAf9]RNW_0 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:152392 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47901 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:04:57 +0100 >> From: "Dave Pawson" >> >> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/CategoryDocumentation > > IMO, it should describe much more Info-mode commands. Without using > the manual, the Emacs help system is quite crippled, especially for > newbies. Doc strings not always target newbies, because they cannot > be too wordy (due to considerations of memory footprint of the running > Emacs). Uh what? Doc strings are not placed in the memory of Emacs except for those of uncompiled Lisp code. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum