* dired-jump
@ 2006-07-08 1:11 Miles Bader
2006-07-08 2:16 ` dired-jump Leon
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From: Miles Bader @ 2006-07-08 1:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
I just found out about a very very handy binding (thanks to David
Kastrup's comment on another mailing list): C-x C-j -- dired-jump
(which when given in a file buffer, pops up a dired buffer on its
directory with point positioned over the entry for that file).
Unfortunately this only gets bound if you load dired-x.el.
This seems so handy that I think it really ought to be bound by default
(`dired-jump' is already autoloaded from dired-x.el) -- having global
non-mode-specific bindings take effect only when you load a particular
lisp file seems most peculiar when that file is part of the standard
lisp distribution.
The code which binds dired-jump to `C-x C-j' is conditional upon the
variable `dired-bind-jump' -- if that variable is nil, then the binding
is not done.
We could simply continue honoring `dired-bind-jump', but move the
binding code from dired-x.el to bindings.el (and maybe add a bit of
customize magic to make changes to `dired-bind-jump' do something
intelligent). [If bindings.el is executed before dumping, perhaps this
code would need to be put somewhere that happens after loading the
user's init file...]
Here's the code from dired-x.el:
;;; GLOBAL BINDING.
(if dired-bind-jump
(progn
(define-key global-map "\C-x\C-j" 'dired-jump)
(define-key global-map "\C-x4\C-j" 'dired-jump-other-window)))
What do people think?
-Miles
--
o The existentialist, not having a pillow, goes everywhere with the book by
Sullivan, _I am going to spit on your graves_.
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* Re: dired-jump
2006-07-08 1:11 dired-jump Miles Bader
@ 2006-07-08 2:16 ` Leon
2006-07-08 3:41 ` dired-jump Drew Adams
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From: Leon @ 2006-07-08 2:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
>
> We could simply continue honoring `dired-bind-jump', but move the
> binding code from dired-x.el to bindings.el (and maybe add a bit of
> customize magic to make changes to `dired-bind-jump' do something
> intelligent). [If bindings.el is executed before dumping, perhaps this
> code would need to be put somewhere that happens after loading the
> user's init file...]
>
> Here's the code from dired-x.el:
>
> ;;; GLOBAL BINDING.
> (if dired-bind-jump
> (progn
> (define-key global-map "\C-x\C-j" 'dired-jump)
> (define-key global-map "\C-x4\C-j" 'dired-jump-other-window)))
>
>
> What do people think?
>
> -Miles
I found it very useful too.
--
Leon
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* RE: dired-jump
2006-07-08 1:11 dired-jump Miles Bader
2006-07-08 2:16 ` dired-jump Leon
@ 2006-07-08 3:41 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-08 8:29 ` dired-jump David Kastrup
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From: Drew Adams @ 2006-07-08 3:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
What do people think?
You've got my vote. I'd say put all of dired-x in - it's all good.
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* Re: dired-jump
2006-07-08 1:11 dired-jump Miles Bader
2006-07-08 2:16 ` dired-jump Leon
2006-07-08 3:41 ` dired-jump Drew Adams
@ 2006-07-08 8:29 ` David Kastrup
2006-07-08 8:57 ` dired-jump Romain Francoise
2006-07-08 15:31 ` dired-jump Richard Stallman
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From: David Kastrup @ 2006-07-08 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> I just found out about a very very handy binding (thanks to David
> Kastrup's comment on another mailing list): C-x C-j -- dired-jump
> (which when given in a file buffer, pops up a dired buffer on its
> directory with point positioned over the entry for that file).
>
> Unfortunately this only gets bound if you load dired-x.el.
>
> This seems so handy that I think it really ought to be bound by default
> (`dired-jump' is already autoloaded from dired-x.el) -- having global
> non-mode-specific bindings take effect only when you load a particular
> lisp file seems most peculiar when that file is part of the standard
> lisp distribution.
>
> The code which binds dired-jump to `C-x C-j' is conditional upon the
> variable `dired-bind-jump' -- if that variable is nil, then the binding
> is not done.
>
> We could simply continue honoring `dired-bind-jump', but move the
> binding code from dired-x.el to bindings.el (and maybe add a bit of
> customize magic to make changes to `dired-bind-jump' do something
> intelligent). [If bindings.el is executed before dumping, perhaps this
> code would need to be put somewhere that happens after loading the
> user's init file...]
>
> Here's the code from dired-x.el:
>
> ;;; GLOBAL BINDING.
> (if dired-bind-jump
> (progn
> (define-key global-map "\C-x\C-j" 'dired-jump)
> (define-key global-map "\C-x4\C-j" 'dired-jump-other-window)))
>
>
> What do people think?
Personally, I find that dired-jump is so useful that it should be the
default (I actually forgot it wasn't).
The problem I see is that dired-x does a lot more, and just using a
particular keybinding should not change the behavior of dired.
The intro to dired states:
File: dired-x, Node: Features, Next: Technical Details, Up: Introduction
1.1 Features
============
Some features provided by Dired Extra
1. Omitting uninteresting files from Dired listing.
*Note Omitting Files in Dired::.
2. Local variables for Dired directories.
*Note Local Variables::.
3. Guessing shell commands in Dired buffers.
*Note Shell Command Guessing::.
4. Running Dired command in non-Dired buffers.
*Note Virtual Dired::.
5. Finding a file mentioned in a buffer
*Note Find File At Point::.
6. Commands using file marking.
*Note Advanced Mark Commands::.
`dired-x.el' binds some functions to keys in Dired Mode (*note Key
Index::) and also binds `C-x C-j' and `C-x 4 C-j' _globally_ to
`dired-jump' (*note Miscellaneous Commands::). It may also bind `C-x
C-f' and `C-x 4 C-f' to `dired-x-find-file' and
`dired-x-find-file-other-window', respectively (*note Find File At
Point::).
Personally, I consider all of those useful, but that is not guaranteed
to be the opinion of everybody else.
So we should either make dired-x the default in toto, or we should
extract the code dealing with dired-jump (and maybe dired-x-find-file)
and move it into dired or a separate file, so that those bindings can
be made the default without getting the rest of dired-x.
But I don't think we should have dired-x's features turned on
depending on whether one has used a stock keybinding. So either we
decouple the keybindings from dired-x, or make all of dired-x stock.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: dired-jump
2006-07-08 1:11 dired-jump Miles Bader
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2006-07-08 8:29 ` dired-jump David Kastrup
@ 2006-07-08 8:57 ` Romain Francoise
2006-07-08 20:57 ` dired-jump Richard Stallman
2006-07-08 15:31 ` dired-jump Richard Stallman
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From: Romain Francoise @ 2006-07-08 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> What do people think?
My plan is to move dired-jump to dired itself after the release, if
Richard agrees. It's not as simple as it seems, because it uses dired-x
features directly (omit mode).
That being said, I'm all for binding it by default now, before the
release.
(I'm the dired-x.el maintainer.)
--
Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> | The sea! the sea! the open
it's a miracle -- http://orebokech.com/ | sea! The blue, the fresh, the
| ever free! --Bryan W. Procter
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* Re: dired-jump
2006-07-08 1:11 dired-jump Miles Bader
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2006-07-08 8:57 ` dired-jump Romain Francoise
@ 2006-07-08 15:31 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-07-08 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
We could simply continue honoring `dired-bind-jump', but move the
binding code from dired-x.el to bindings.el (and maybe add a bit of
customize magic to make changes to `dired-bind-jump' do something
intelligent).
Nothing in dired-x should have a standard key-binding. dired-x is the
file where people put extensions to Dired without having to get them
judged for inclusion in Dired itself.
We could consider the command dired-jump for inclusion in Dired,
if you want. (After the release.)
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* Re: dired-jump
2006-07-08 8:57 ` dired-jump Romain Francoise
@ 2006-07-08 20:57 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-07-08 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel, miles
That being said, I'm all for binding it by default now, before the
release.
No, that is not ok.
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