From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .emacs-settings.el Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:19:00 +0200 Message-ID: <85tzq780bv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <60282.128.165.123.18.1189002441.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87k5r350o5.fsf@jurta.org> <87veanixv5.fsf@cadilhac.name> <857in3bnav.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189145969 7753 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2007 06:19:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 06:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 08:19:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITXBe-00006P-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:19:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITXBc-0002b9-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITXBY-0002az-DV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITXBX-0002an-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITXBX-0002ad-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITXBV-0004ug-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.16]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845BF4C29B; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72006ABE87; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-044-151.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.44.151]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521E535E6A6; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9744B1CAD71B; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:19:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu\, 06 Sep 2007 15\:21\:05 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4175/Thu Sep 6 22:16:54 2007 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78075 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:34:32 +0200 David Kastrup wrote:=20 > > DK> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:04:30 +0200 michael@cadilhac.name (Micha=EBl Cad= ilhac) wrote:=20 >>>=20 > MC> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>>>> I would not make it hidden, to avoid surprises: project.el >>>=20 > MC> So sad the features of project.el will not be usable in the lisp/ > MC> directory of Emacs, then :-) >>>=20 >>> I think surprising the user is a bad thing, so I'd rather not have a >>> hidden file. The penalty of name conflicts is not as bad as using >>> hidden data to influence an application's behavior. > > DK> Uh, you are arguing against _any_ file with a .* name right now: all > DK> of them are used to influence an application's behavior without > DK> cluttering directory listings. > > DK> So I don't buy this argument. > > I think you've missed the difference between a hidden file anywhere in > the directory tree and in a well-known location. In a well-known location there is no reason to hide files, since the well-known location need not hold other files. So no, I am not missing anything, and it is not polite of you to presume that anybody not agreeing with you must be stupid. --=20 David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum