From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:36 +0100 Message-ID: <85tzk3cp5z.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <7dbe73ed0802200814k4164eb10ic3275c3c277da59a@mail.gmail.com> <85mypvfva9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7dbe73ed0802200921p1eb90441u63251d9b7babad16@mail.gmail.com> <854pc3fscd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7dbe73ed0802201248x6dea5e3bgc10481990d330ff1@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203541714 21519 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 21:08:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sascha Wilde , Juanma Barranquero , Emacs Devel To: "Mathias Dahl" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 22:08:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRwAz-0006PH-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:08:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwAU-0001HC-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwAG-00014e-I5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwAF-00013d-Px for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwAF-00013H-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.48]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRwAF-0003m1-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4A427B6E8; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE26ABAA6; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-026-202.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.26.202]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CAB292B61; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CDBE41CDB1E6; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:36 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <7dbe73ed0802201248x6dea5e3bgc10481990d330ff1@mail.gmail.com> (Mathias Dahl's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:48:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5893/Wed Feb 20 09:07:36 2008 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89734 Archived-At: "Mathias Dahl" writes: >> > What is our target audience then? They were my target audience, >> > apparently. >> >> Sure, but not Emacs' target audience. > > What is Emacs' target audience? Please, tell me, so that I can skip > advocating Emacs to the wrong audience. People comfortable working with a large humongous set of loosely related tools, packages, editing modes and keybindings on a Lisp-based rapid prototyping platform for editing. People who would rather stop using an editor than electing to set an option are not Emacs' target audience. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum