From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Jenkner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote. Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:25:00 +0200 Message-ID: <85si52u87n.fsf@iznogoud.viz> References: <87si59wj42.fsf@T420.taylan> <87zizdijbp.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267302.7050606@yandex.ru> <87io61igyu.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267CDF.6010201@yandex.ru> <87wpuhh15s.fsf@T420.taylan> <562683B9.1060305@yandex.ru> <83y4exe71v.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4ewoqbs.fsf@fastmail.com> <83si54e2qx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4ew8fue.fsf@fastmail.com> <83zizcurco.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2qgw3q1.fsf@fastmail.com> <83lhawuny4.fsf@gnu.org> <22055.54617.848927.986392@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85a8rcrs8q.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <83fv14ukna.fsf@gnu.org> <854mhkrqwe.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <838u6wujeu.fsf@gnu.org> <85eggnuq9w.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <83fv13t07m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445534739 32024 80.91.229.3 (22 Oct 2015 17:25:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: random832@fastmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 22 19:25:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJc0-00029k-3Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:25:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJbz-00041w-H1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJbw-00041l-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJbs-0001CN-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from b2bfep15.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.60]:36943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJbs-0001By-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from edge12.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.82]) by b2bfep15.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151022172502.PYAG27614.b2bfep15-int.chello.at@edge12.upcmail.net> for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:25:02 +0200 Original-Received: from iznogoud.viz ([91.119.234.155]) by edge12.upcmail.net with edge id YHR01r02E3MqLgz0CHR14K; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:25:02 +0200 X-SourceIP: 91.119.234.155 Original-Received: from wolfgang by iznogoud.viz with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpJbo-0000gx-PN; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:25:00 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , random832@fastmail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83fv13t07m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 22 Oct 2015 18:03:09 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (berkeley-unix) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 62.179.121.60 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192410 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 22 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I beg to differ: IMHO, on Unix-like systems, there's no point for >> `shell-command' and friends to support anything but /bin/sh, which is >> certainly a Bourne shell and hopefully reasonably POSIX compliant. > > I see your point. However, this is contrary to a very old and > documented behavior. Would such a change be acceptable? It would break shell functions and other stuff defined in some of the init files belonging to $SHELL (even if sh is a symlink to bash). So... the status quo is fine, perhaps after all? In any case, I still think that on Unix-like systems there's little point in supporting shells with different quoting conventions.