From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-trailing-whitespace and binary files Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:28:22 +0200 Message-ID: <85r7289d21.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1149236968 18647 80.91.229.2 (2 Jun 2006 08:29:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ihs_4664@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 02 10:29:24 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fm523-0002Vk-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:29:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fm523-0008Tl-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fm51q-0008S5-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fm51p-0008Re-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fm51p-0008RP-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fm58G-0003WE-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:35:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Fm51h-0008Q9-OU; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id AECA61C464FC; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:28:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:13:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55607 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > >> This looks wrong. Why should all the control chars be > >> considered whitespace in text-mode? Rather than try to use > >> another major mode I think we should fix the above. > > > > That's what I thought, but I don't see a more appropriate > > choice in the Syntax Class Table node of the Emacs Lisp > > manual, which says this: > > We could give them Word syntax. > > Since they don't normally appear in proper English text, it is hard to > argue that any choice of syntax is fundamentally wrong. It is just a > matter of what seems marginally better. This problem is an argument > that Word is marginally better than Whitespace. I think "punctuation" would make more sense. This designates stuff that is neither a component of words nor of symbols, and not whitespace. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum