From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 02:58:55 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <85odl0ulv4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178328820 10116 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 01:33:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 01:33:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 03:33:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk99W-0005zg-St for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 03:33:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk9GB-0004BC-BT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:40:31 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.98 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nNf5vfZo3ayM+DJN38GzukCXpfg= Original-Lines: 35 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 May 2007 02:58:48 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 03dd4b50.newsspool2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=_@PVn_aoPE7TQL:hoD@>T?A9EHlD; 3Yc24Fo<]lROoR18kF5MOK`; S:bhJ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43708 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Brian Elmegaard >> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 07:24:02 +0100 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > It makes it harder because they use Emacs that behaves not as >> > documented in subtle ways. >> >> >From a short google on groups it seems that the emacs developers find >> emacsW32 ("EmacsW32 is not Emacs for MS Windows. Instead it is an >> add-on to Emacs for MS Windows.") worse than aquamacs ("Aquamacs >> features extensive customization: it will feel and behave mostly like >> an Aqua program"). >> >> Why is that? > > Maybe because most Emacs developers don't know anything about > Aquamacs. That includes myself. Well, I had the doubtful pleasure of getting to try showing someone on a conference how to work with it. What a piece of crock. C-x 3 and your window splits vertically, showing the same buffer in both windows. So far, so good. C-x b and a separate frame opens. C-x 4 b and another frame opens. It is impossible to actually switch buffers in one of the vertically aligned windows: instead new frames open every time. After a while, I give up on it and tell the person to get and install Carbonemacs which is supposed to be less "Maclike", a euphemism for "braindead" that more likely than not is unjust to Apple. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum