From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:15 +0200 Message-ID: <85odj6fq1o.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <467BFAAB.8060601@gnu.org> <851wg3chsm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182625674 14605 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2007 19:07:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, wilde@sha-bang.de, hacksaw@hacksaw.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 23 21:07:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I2Axb-0007k9-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Axa-0001Zo-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:07:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AxG-0001UJ-TO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AxF-0001Ta-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AxF-0001TS-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.44]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I2AxC-0004m3-Ek; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:07:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.13]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF98817FFA7; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D862613EAE5; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-023-003.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.23.3]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A28B2351A4; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2DD251C3EE46; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 23 Jun 2007 14\:27\:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.3/3507/Sat Jun 23 13:32:09 2007 on mail-in-10.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73726 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Making *scratch* or even something like *unnamed* readonly would > pretty much defeat its intent. > > The principal intent of *scratch* is to be the current buffer when > Emacs starts up. Then it should be named "*initial*" or "*startup*" and not "*scratch*". Using a name not corresponding to its principal intent is misleading. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum