From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kamphausen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Beginning Hobbyist Programmer Question Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:05:30 +0100 Organization: Church of Emacs Message-ID: <85myr3a1p1.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> References: <44129c70-807a-4ef0-bc4f-e299caf5e334@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200652889 18062 80.91.229.12 (18 Jan 2008 10:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 18 11:41:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JFofK-0002uQ-3Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:41:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JFoev-0005fx-5L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:41:13 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net GVBC3OST0kY+8eBXnLNqzYosA2G7I5vWMAnJZUYzWwXkcazmAvDER6+w5ZIdJi9iq1EVX7NKdL5QYZpcNS9B5ls0l4ZZFZuExmdl86q3//B3nCusdIlz8u50vq/r5j/q Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@albasani.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:05:30 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: uBD4fY9/k1mvnG39zaHO9HwOebIi9jYLMBA3XAcaj2A= Cancel-Lock: sha1:ugLIejVKyuzZAl6P5s91qYdHaH4= sha1:ZWzzSbhu7/xvvlGZIptG0/Mf4fU= User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 32LDdZAdU0LlCfstWtujHWCNQwLH+qJClGjtIMIfVUQ= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:155391 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50795 Archived-At: signups17@gmail.com writes: > Can anyone provide a cogent explanation for why I should take the time > to climb that learning curve? What are the benefits, as you see them? Because in the end you will have /one/ tool to do almost all of your typing ([1]) which will fit your needs /exactly/ ([2]). You will never want to use something else. And of course: it's fun ([3]). If I had no Emacs I were no programmer. Regards, Stefan Footnotes: [1] E.g.: Programming (C, C++, Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, Common Lisp, Elisp, Bash, whatever), Writing (HTML, XML, LaTeX, groff, plain text, emails, news, edit your oddmusewikis, whatever) [2] Keybindings as you want them, code-templates, dabbrev, spell-checker integration, your own extensions, things you found on the 'net, integrated shell, integrated terminal, CVS and SVN frontends, planning (org, planner, calendar, remember), etc.pp. [3] E.g. writing elisp, finding astonishing features (like these footnote-adding functions ;-) -- Stefan Kamphausen --- http://www.skamphausen.de a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand) You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust.