From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:01:26 +0200 Message-ID: <85mynnxhuh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <878wz9btq8.fsf@jurta.org> <85fxthy4qp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87ve2cfk9x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200804201931.m3KJVO4X008875@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <858wz8ux2w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BA779.2080507@gmail.com> <853apguv0s.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BAD5C.4090204@gmail.com> <85prskte96.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BB8C0.4020303@gmail.com> <85abjnu5ss.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480C31B9.6060900@gmail.com> <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208797461 14050 80.91.229.10 (21 Apr 2008 17:04:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov , Dan Nicolaescu , Stefan Monnier , drew.adams@oracle.com To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 19:23:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jnzjo-00038G-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:23:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JnzPI-0001H3-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JnzPE-0001Gl-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JnzP5-0001G9-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JnzP5-0001G6-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-14.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.54]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JnzOu-0008Hb-NQ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E671878C2; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27E75C2BD; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-038-079.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.38.79]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D578C469; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:01:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 340641C3C7BC; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:01:25 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:41:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6864/Mon Apr 21 16:38:08 2008 on mail-in-12.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95650 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> However rereading what you wrote I see that you said that there is >>>>> no way for the average (new) user to deactivate the region. He/she >>>>> can use the arrow keys without shift. >>>> That does not deactivate a region when transient-mark-mode is used. >> >>> Is that really the case? >> >> Better ask Emacs rather than this mailing-list. > > > It would perhaps not get that emphasis if I just asked Emacs. The > answer is of course that the arrow keys without shift does deactivate > the region. Type C-SPC Right Right Right. You get an active region. It does not get inactivated by arrow keys without shift. So could you please try adapting your proposals to the actual Emacs behavior? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum